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We Still Don’t Know How the Coronavirus Is Killing Us
New York Magazine ^ | 04/26/2020 | David Wallace-Wells

Posted on 04/28/2020 11:01:22 AM PDT by RushingWater

Over the last few weeks, the country has managed to stabilize the spread of the coronavirus sufficiently enough to begin debating when and in what ways to “reopen,” and to normalize, against all moral logic, the horrifying and ongoing death toll — thousands of Americans dying each day, in multiples of 9/11 every week now with the virus seemingly “under control.” The death rate is no longer accelerating, but holding steady, which is apparently the point at which an onrushing terror can begin fading into background noise. Meanwhile, the disease itself appears to be shape-shifting before our eyes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; hydroxychloroqine; wuhanvirus; zinc
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My comments/questions:

All this mysterious horrid body failures - could this be a result of cells unable to carry oxygen due to zinc deficiency?
And, just like that, this article relates, the FDA is now advising against hydroxychloroquine.
1 posted on 04/28/2020 11:01:22 AM PDT by RushingWater
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To: RushingWater

Pearl clutching from the mother of all clutchers. NY Mag.

Bite me.


2 posted on 04/28/2020 11:03:16 AM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Autonomous User

It is the democrats killing the patients by denying them the proven medicine.


3 posted on 04/28/2020 11:04:06 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: RushingWater

My guess is hyperventilation, you hysterical do-do.


4 posted on 04/28/2020 11:04:47 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Autonomous User

But whatever the #s are it is interesting to know what the pathophysiology is. We know it rapidly becomes a “viremia”. We know it is also characterized by widespread micro vascular emboli, probably precipitated by exposure of the vascular endothelium. We also knows it advances to a direct viral attack on every organ exposed to it. Producing a cardiomyopathy. We know the microemboli produce renal failure. My neighbor confirms a serious period of altered sensorium almost like a viral encephalitis. Seems to me we know quite a bit.


5 posted on 04/28/2020 11:07:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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To: RushingWater
Please. People die in multiples of 9/11 EVERY DAY from car crashes. Why don't they force people to not drive?

Oh. Wait.

6 posted on 04/28/2020 11:07:43 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberaln would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: RushingWater

Hey, dumbass! (not you, rw) Death IS normal, and there’s nothing you or I can do about it. Have you been advocating for people staying in and not driving their cars, and bigger, heavier safer cars for when they have to? [crickets] No? Then you’re a brainless whore, with only the ability to regurgitate what would be tyrants offer toy to thing, and not with debating. Slut.


7 posted on 04/28/2020 11:07:45 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RushingWater

Yes. Oxygen depletion can cause organ failures.

And given each person unique problems and weaknesses it will affect different organs differently.

Then throw in underlying conditions, diseases, illnesses, pre-existing body damage and injury...


8 posted on 04/28/2020 11:08:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RushingWater

A stranglehold baby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc6IDdIxBys


9 posted on 04/28/2020 11:08:39 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Autonomous User

Closer we get to actually reopening the more hysterical they are getting. Stories of doctors killing themselves over COVID-19, the second wave, etc.. I am reading a book about Father Amorth, was one of the Vatican’s leading exorcists. When demons are about to be expelled from someone they flail around verbally and physically inside the person, saying anything, making threats, making up stories to prevent them from leaving. Same here.


10 posted on 04/28/2020 11:09:10 AM PDT by pburgh01 (It's the FLU!)
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To: RushingWater

We are expecting to get news, from news media.

Probably time we stop doing that.


11 posted on 04/28/2020 11:10:31 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: RushingWater

Yet everyone and especially the doctors are speculating wildly.


12 posted on 04/28/2020 11:10:59 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RushingWater

” to normalize, against all moral logic, the horrifying and ongoing death toll — thousands of Americans dying each day”

What’s the “moral logic” that the author uses to “normalize” the 50 million people in the world that die each year? How does he ever sleep at night, or smile, or even breathe, when he should be spending every moment mourning the loss of every soul?


13 posted on 04/28/2020 11:13:27 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: RushingWater

The best theory I have heard is that the virus attacks red blood cells in way that limits their oxygen carrying capability.

I’m sure there are other theories. This one just feels right to me.


14 posted on 04/28/2020 11:15:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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It’s killing us through starvation, depression, lack of exercise, over eating... The virus is more potent than we thought.


15 posted on 04/28/2020 11:15:49 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: rightwingcrazy

To the left, the only “morals” are choices which e.power government, and the only “logic” is the didactic of Marxism.


16 posted on 04/28/2020 11:16:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: wastoute
Yet it is asymptomatic or shows only minor symptoms in hundreds of thousands of people. I know nothing of immunity science, but it seems counterintuitive to me that young people with relatively low lifetime exposure to viruses (compared to older people) seem almost immune to the CV.

Weeks ago, I heard somewhere that the CV kills because people have a hyper-immune response in which the body over-reacts, leading to the fatal pneumonias and such. But I only heard that once, and it seemed contrary to everything I had heard about immunity. It made it sound like a strong immune response was the PROBLEM.
17 posted on 04/28/2020 11:17:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RushingWater

It’s not killing US...It’s killing SOME OF US. Another fake news headline designed to spread panic among the stipid and ill-informed.


18 posted on 04/28/2020 11:17:54 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s not just hypoxia. Exposure of the vascular endothelium basement membrane is very thrombogenic. I do believe that is where the whole thing starts. As it progresses microemboli become strands of clot/. So that’s what you see in the lungs. One of the functions of the lungs is to filter emboli. And that’s what they see int the lungs. Strands of clot. Pulmonary tissue that has been savaged by direct viral attack. Loss of Type I and II pneumocytes do to direct viral attack. It’s exactly what they are describing in the CTs and on the posts. It’s a lot more than just hypoxia.

Frankly I doubt RBCs are much involved. So a virus binds to it and inserts it’s genome? Then what? Nothing is what. RBCs can’t process a viral genome.


19 posted on 04/28/2020 11:19:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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To: RushingWater

It could be and is the result of propaganda


20 posted on 04/28/2020 11:20:56 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dloont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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