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Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research
medium ^ | 4/22/2020 | deigin

Posted on 05/05/2020 8:17:39 AM PDT by RummyChick

Oh, come on. Lab-made? Nonsense! Back in January, that was my knee-jerk reaction when ideas that Covid-19 is caused by a laboratory leak had just surfaced. Bioweapon? Well, that is just Flat Earth crazies territory. Thus, whenever I kept hearing anything about non-natural origins of SARS-CoV-2, I brushed it aside under similar sentiments. So what if there is a virology institute in Wuhan? Who knows how many of those are sprinkled throughout China. At some point, it became necessary to brush such theories aside in a substantiated manner, as their proponents began to back up their theses about the possible artificial nature of the virus with arguments from molecular biology, and when engaging them in debate, I wanted to smash their conspiracy theories with cold, hard scientific facts. Just like that Nature paper (or so I thought).


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there are some scientific graphics from you experts. here is what a Dr on texags said

Marcus Aurelius8:30aAG I'm no virologist, but It seems obvious a 12 nucleotide add-on "mutation" conferring higher infectivity rates would not occur by chance.

1 posted on 05/05/2020 8:17:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

btw, that is an excerpt...i didnt click the box..there is much more at the link


2 posted on 05/05/2020 8:18:18 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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The WHO and CDC now recommend everyone wear a blindfold to protect from seeing what’s really going on


3 posted on 05/05/2020 8:19:33 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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the paper goes quite a lot into Baric and Bat Lady
4 posted on 05/05/2020 8:22:58 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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They keep conflating “lab altered” and “lab add on” with it being made “from the ground up”.


5 posted on 05/05/2020 8:23:35 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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Fauci is denying it came from lab but dont know terms he is using


6 posted on 05/05/2020 8:26:11 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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oh and before that idiot shows up and asks why I didnt post the whole article...

it is too long..too scientific..and way too many graphs to post. you have to go to the site...


7 posted on 05/05/2020 8:29:26 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

Fauxi is implicated in the financing, planning,
organization, personel, weaponizing, education of terrorists,
treason, and obstruction of justice.
all while beloved to HRC and dreaming of his own benGhazi.

Fauxi and Xi and the rest are guilty of Crimes against
Humanity AND attempting to profit off it.


8 posted on 05/05/2020 8:29:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: RummyChick

Pretty much at this point, their denial is confirmation.


9 posted on 05/05/2020 8:30:47 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: wastoute

Ping


10 posted on 05/05/2020 8:30:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: RummyChick

for scientific people

Could Retroviruses Play a Role in COVID-19?

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/05/03/is-the-new-coronavirus-created-in-a-lab.aspx

The XMRV retrovirus is actually the virus that has the same cytokine storm signature as COVID-19, not coronaviruses, which are far more benign. (I delve into what retroviruses are in another section further below.)


11 posted on 05/05/2020 8:35:03 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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Tom Fitton going after Fauci

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3841893/posts


12 posted on 05/05/2020 8:43:53 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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Fauci maintains,very recently, that it jumped from species to species and then to man. How much rope does this man need to hang himself.


13 posted on 05/05/2020 8:48:07 AM PDT by codder too
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To: RummyChick

Fauci managed to appear on the stage in a huge public role just in time to cover his tracks...now how do these things happen? /s


14 posted on 05/05/2020 8:52:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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You have a good handle on all this. I recall a post a while back that said the chinese scientist studying the corona virus inserted some HIV genetic material into the RNA of an existing virus creating covid 19 that some how got out of her lab.

As I recall the female scientist was Dr Shi Zhengli.

The news now is that there was no such lab made virus.

Have you any thoughts on the lab made reports?


15 posted on 05/05/2020 8:57:35 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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this is like a he said /she said type of debate

plenty say no HIV inserts
other say there are

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag

since I am not a scientist I have no idea.

The theory is that Huang Yanling is Patient 0. China Commies are trying to dispute that with various propaganda including claims from where she works that she is alive and well
YET, we know that Commie China would force her to come forward if that were true.

She could just be in prison somewhere


16 posted on 05/05/2020 9:03:53 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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Fauci is denying it came from lab but don't know terms he is using

Fauci used YOUR tax dollars to fund research that would be ILLEGAL in the United States at the Wuhan virus lab.

Would any reasonable person expect him to admit it came from the very lab he paid to develop it?

17 posted on 05/05/2020 9:11:59 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Darksheare

“Never believe anything until it is officially denied.” ~ often attributed to Otto von Bismarck...


18 posted on 05/05/2020 9:19:50 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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How much rope does this man need to hang himself.

It takes a long rope to hang a short man...

19 posted on 05/05/2020 9:21:15 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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Re: Fauxi
People could get away with this stuff 10 years ago, but the information network is operating at lightning speed and everything will now be discovered. Just ask Comey?


20 posted on 05/05/2020 9:21:44 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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