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To: LibsRJerks

“Talked to my doctor about it today. Apparently he doesn’t believe in this combo and has already written it off.”


OK, first I’ll talk about your situation, then about HCQ.

As others said, get another doctor. My 82 y.o. mother got flu and then pneumonia while in the hospital to check out her head after a fall. She wasn’t eating or sleeping, or getting any nutrition, and was thus beginning to fail. I called the hospitalist one Friday morning and read him the riot act about getting her some IV vitamins to help her immune system...and I could smell his condescension of my lay-person’s demand. Monday rolled around and he did nothing - so I called again and demanded that he give her vitamins, specifically, C, D and zinc (yeah, I know, zinc is a mineral). Tuesday morning came and I went to visit Mom, and all I saw was a bag with amino acids (i.e. protein) and electrolytes. Now, with not eating, she needed some protein to combat muscle atrophy; she also needed electrolytes. But the bag did not contain a single milligram of any vitamin or mineral that would help her immune system. I hit the roof, called the head of the practice (who is my mother’s physician when she visits the office), and fired the arrogant MF’er. The next doc had her on a “banana bag” (so-called because of the yellow color from the vitamins) that afternoon, and another the next day. Thus began her (rather long and slow) recovery - but she got out before the Wu-flu patients started coming in, and is now as fiesty as ever.

Trust me, docs are human with all of the faults and foibles that this implies. My father and my mother’s father were docs, and damned good ones - mainly because they both realized that they didn’t know everything and were learning until the day they died. I’ve met plenty of docs besides them, and gotten to know many quite well. All are bright, but some are IYI (intelligent, yet idiot), not to mention arrogant as phuck. Don’t be afraid to fire one that doesn’t give you the service you deserve, just like a plumber, electrician, lawyer or A/C guy. Good service get rewarded with loyalty and referrals, and bad service with getting your ass fired. If you’re not going to advocate for yourself, then who will? Best to do that BEFORE you get sick with a really bad disease.

I made up my mind back in February that if I or a family member got the Wu-flu, that the course of treatment WOULD include HCQ, zithromax and zinc - and if a doc refused to give that immediately after a diagnosis (test or no), then he/she would be fired on the spot and replaced. I read the studies before Trump announced that he favored its use, and came to the conclusion that early use was a cure (i.e. it stops reproduction of the virus pretty much in its tracks, and if you catch it early then your immune system will effectively eat what’s in your body for lunch and crap it out by dinner.

That the Dems and other Trump opponents so savagely denounced HCQ after he mentioned it, only reinforced my view that it had to work - because they were (and still are) desperate to collapse the economy to stop Trump. They simply DO NOT CARE if they kill tens or hundreds of thousands in the process, so long as the process ends up with them in power. These are sick people, and woe unto us if they ever get back into power - they’ve already revealed who they really are, and real power would ensure that we won’t recognize the country after long (if, that is, we survive).

BTW, their claim that HCQ is dangerous is a crock. Yes, it has certain potentially harmful effects if taken long term. Big deal, so does aspirin and cough medicine - and we continue to use them. People in the tens of millions have taken it over the last 65 years for malaria (and for a lot longer than the 5 day course of treatment for Wu-flu), and millions more over time for Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis. Oh, and my mother - the one with the pre-existing heart arrhythmia - has taken it everyday for 5 years for her RA, with no effect on her heart whatsoever, and no retinal damage (she gets checked for that quarterly). NO ONE is going to have any adverse side effects after taking 200mg twice a day for 5 days - NOT ONE PERSON. After that is understood, then the only question is efficacy - and multiple studies from around the world have shown that it is effective (with zinc and azithromycin) against Wu-flu if taken at or near the onset of symptoms (like any medicine, if you first take it when you’re dying of an infection, it simply cannot have the desired effect - that’s how anyone with 2 working neurons could understand that the “tests” undertaken by so many groups were just a fig leaf - they were DESIGNED to fail, but to offer the cover of that failure to deny HCQ to patients, let alone those not yet in bad enough condition to be admitted to a hospital.


28 posted on 05/18/2020 11:22:29 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

very well said

risks of short term use extremely small after ten years still very small depending on heart problems

Ventricular Arrhythmia Risk Due to Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin Treatment For COVID-19
Mar 29, 2020Cardiology Magazine

https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2020/03/27/14/00/ventricular-arrhythmia-risk-due-to-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-treatment-for-covid-19


43 posted on 05/19/2020 10:09:37 AM PDT by rolling_stone (tshf)
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To: Ancesthntr

Great post!

God bless your mom.

She has a fierce advocate in you!


49 posted on 05/19/2020 10:31:30 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Ancesthntr

I’ve read various articles where vitamins are poo-pooed by MANY doctors. Heck - even the FDA doesn’t consider vitamin supplements as a possible treatment for anything.

One thing that I hope this whole Covid thing teaches more people is that they have to do a bit of research and learn themselves and not rely on the government to do it for you. Should be obvious that they don’t have the answers.

Don’t wear a mask!
You must wear a mask!
The virus isn’t airborne.
The virus can last 9 days on steel.
The virus can’t be transferred from surfaces.
Wash your hands!


68 posted on 05/20/2020 1:24:36 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: Ancesthntr

Thanks for the very informative info, reinforces the plans I’d already made to buy these meds for use as a prophylaxis/treatment.


79 posted on 05/20/2020 7:32:25 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Thanks for that..


84 posted on 05/21/2020 7:18:13 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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