was it that long ago? Wow- seems like just yesterday that that tragedy happened—
I thought it was 20,000 years... and that number’s wrong. It’ll be much less - as per this story and radiation eating fungus etc. Mother nature has many tricks in her bag...
I watched a show about the animals there.
The descendants of the dogs people were forced to leave behind are flourishing.
But the videos of the people crying as they were dragged away from their dogs who tried to follow were heartbreaking.
Remember, NOTHING was expected to grow in Hiroshima or Nagasaki for 92 years! Yet the next year plants sprouted and trees grew.
Back in the early 1960s, I took the magazine PROGRESSIVE FARMER. In one issue was the story of OLD GRANNY, a cow that had been exposed to radioactive fallout from the first nuke test in New Mexico. Moved to Oak Ridge, Tenn, she continued to drop normal calves for the next 19 years.
And by the end something that is a bit of a nuisance becomes "THE END OF ALL LIFE" tm.
Will they be in the next X-men movie?
Yet another example demonstrating that the “trust the science” dolts are usually social studies majors who never passed a high school chem course. Science doesn’t require trust or faith - it’s verifiable. If it’s not verifiable, it’s not science, it’s just some gibberish that people calling themselves scientists have spewed.
I challenge you to serve one up for your dinner.
Elena Filatova is the daughter of a nuclear engineer who has been riding her motorcycle through Chernobyl taking videos and pictures since the 1990s.
She illustrates the 34 year history of the site since the accident at her website (commercial, spam, and popup free) https://www.elenafilatova.net
Wow! I will remember that
“The EXCLUSION ZONE” has a HEALTHY & relatively large herd of WILD HORSES.
Some horses there are NOW close to 20YO & according to local veterinarians the herd shows NO signs of abnormality.
Give the “scientists”, who are “KNOW IT ALLS” on ALL subjects, a ZERO for guessing the outcome of such situations.
Yours, TMN78247
For humans, sensitivity to radiation exposure can be illustrated with a bell curve, with the left side of the curve being people who exhibit sensitivity (die quickly) and the middle being people who are sickened to various degrees but don’t die quickly, and the right side of the bell being people who ‘miraculously’ appear to survive exposure unscathed.
When Chernobyl blew up, around 9 people in the control room were “dusted” with radioactive fuel. One of the men was responsible for the disaster (he ordered safety systems taken offline for a ‘test’). He had already survived radiation exposure in a prior nuclear incident which he caused on a submarine, and he went on to survive being dusted with Chernobyl fuel. The other 8 men died within days and their deaths were grisly. Some of the doctors at the hospital where contaminated patients were taken were ‘dropping’ (sensitive - dying)just from treating patients but other staff survived.
There were towns where, and I am quoting old documentation, “every child was ill”. The body can repair DNA damage and radiation burns, but it has limitations and may have to compete with other challenges to the immune system. An international organization reported that incidents of all disease increased (immune systems were dealing with radiation exposure and so the population was experiencing increased illness/death from other causes their bodies would otherwise recover from).
At the time, some insisted that the concern about radioactive waste and the exposure of the population was overblown because of the variation (bell curve) in genetic sensitivity meant (they said) that in a few generations those who were not sensitive to radiation exposure would dominate the gene pool of the population. A researcher dryly remarked, “Yes, and I suppose you would be satisfied if your entire family died out or battled cancer their entire lives because they weren’t among the genetically resilient.”
There wasn’t enough uncontaminated land upon which to relocate those from affected areas, so many people were forced to live in irradiated zones, raise families, contend with deaths, illnesses and genetic deformities. A translator explained for a woman in an interview that she was given a radiation detector by the government, but the laundry was radioactive, the food was radioactive - she began to cry because knowing that it was all around her did not help because she and those she loved could not leave the area. The footage is sad (understatement).
Finding populations of puppies today doesn’t indicate the suffering and dying of genetically impacted animals (cancers, blood disorders, mutations, sterility etc.) that lived/suffered died during the 36 years between Chernobyl and the present. We don’t even know how long the puppies will live or the percentage of which can’t reproduce or produce mutations. Diseased dogs or other animals may not come out of the forest or explore the area where they could be observed. We don’t know what populations/species could not survive exposure and died out.
I’ve seen articles like the one about puppies before, but to me it’s like spraying a room full of people with a toxin and, after some die, noting that the survivors prove concerns about the toxin is overblown.
“Life will find a way” may mean that a child grew up in a contaminated zone, lived with blood disorders/physical exhaustion and suppressed immunity, wasn’t allowed to move out of the area, married and raised children with lymphomas, cancers etc. I say this having researched it over the years; the reading and first hand accounts are incredibly depressing.
I do recall reading about wild boar populations that were heavily irradiated (high content of Cesium-137); it was hard convincing people that the animals were not safe to eat.
About 10 years ago - sickened populations still living in the contaminated zones of the Ukraine confronted the World Health Organization which the UN forced to “happy talk” exposure zones. The camera faced the floor at times and you could hear the people demanding the WHO act like medical people and admit the medical issues were still present. The WHO speaker anxiously promised to speak the truth to the UN. That was a lie; by design the UN vetted all content produced and distributed by WHO.
Specimens analyzed from the area often show elevated concentrations of long-lived fission products, but nothing approaching lethal or even harmful levels at this point in time. As far as genetic effects go, a good example would be the wild wolves. About eight generations of Canis lupus have passed since the accident and no statistically significant change in mutation rates have been found.
As far as consuming fauna harvested from the area, you could probably do so without immediate or long-term effect, but it is kind of sophistry to suggest it. I mean, why bother? Anyone who has samples meats prepared from feral animals knows that it has a somewhat tough, gamy texture and if it isn't prepared properly can have a somewhat unpleasant, strong taste. If prepared properly it can be utterly delicious (e.g., trail bologna), but for most people you're better off with meat raised for human consumption, usually found under cellophane in your local grocery.
The experts and scientists, while highly educated, don’t know what they don’t know. Science will always teeter on the edge of being proven wrong. It’s an occupational hazard. For that reason they should be less preachy and arrogant. We need more humble scientists, not media sluts and blowhards. /Short rant
I was reading article over 10 years ago that took note of the wild life taking over the exclusion zones.
Life is back to normal in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, after all.
Now I know what to use on those pesky mosquitos.
Chernobyl, the original HOAX.
The Chernobyl “disaster” didn’t happen. It ALMOST did, but it didn’t.
The global impact of Chernobyl was ZERO! The local impact of Chernobyl was VERY local and not as bad as portrayed.
Chernobyl is the nuclear (or nucular, George W Bush) equivalent of “Global Warming”.
Check this out! Hiroshima/Nagasaki then & now where actual nuclear BOMBS were detonated, not some pesky nuclear accident. Especially note the “NOW” pictures.
https://japaninsides.com/city-rebuilt-from-the-ashes-hiroshima-nagasaki-then-and-now/
And it’s not safe to eat radio active meat even plans have a high count.