Posted on 05/23/2020 6:20:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
As a nation and a society, we found ourselves not fully prepared for the sudden global pandemic of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. One of many ways that our society is struggling to keep up is for the public to understand basic concepts about medication and how to battle this new virus.
We heard about the couple in Arizona who drank a fish tank cleaner designed to kill parasites in fish aquariums. This was somehow blamed on President Donald Trump — even though the wife is alleged to be a Democrat donor, not a Trump fan.
There are some basic concepts that professionals take for granted that everyone knows. Apparently, some things should be better explained. Your author reviewed these issues with doctors, including a preeminent physician among the top ten finalists for the Nobel in medicine.
First, no one should take medication without being screened by his physician and advised to take it. Too much criticism about COVID-19 is based on the assumption that everyone might run out and start popping hydroxychloroquine pills like candy.
President Donald Trump recently announced that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine together with zinc supplements for almost two weeks now. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, always classy, then called Trump "morbidly obese" as a risk factor and gave her medical advice that the medication would be dangerous for Trump.
But medications that are not over the counter require a doctor's prescription. A physician evaluates a patient and screens for risk factors, allergies to medications, and other "contraindications." In Trump's case, the White House physician, Sean Connolly — not Pelosi — would decide if Trump's weight argues against the medication or whether hydroxychloroquine makes sense in decreasing the president's chance of coronavirus infection.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Governors of rat states banning the medication and the fake media joining in preventing the newly infected from going into the hospital because they would lose billing medicare 52000 dollars per patient.
What are people going to do when the next ChiCom bioterrorist attack occurs?
The ChiComs know how we handled this one, and will plan accordingly.
Great find, thanks for posting.
I've been pilloried on this forum for calling it a bio-terror attack and I maintain my stance that's exactly what it was.
The origins of the virus aside for a moment, exactly what would one call it when China locks down travel within their own country and prohibits anyone from Wuhan province from travelling outside Wuhan while simultaneously allowing tens of thousands of infected Chinese from Wuhan to board airplanes destined for the United States and other parts of the world?
I call that a bio-terrorism attack. Each and every Chinese that landed here in the US was a walking bio-terrorism bomb. There's just no other way to say it and I think any reasonably intelligent person would come to that same conclusion.
That’s racist /s
You have the right of it, I think.
I thought this story was debunked since it turned out to be a murder plot by the wife, using her hatred for Trump as the cover story.
Debunked or not, this fish-tank-cleaner story is too good a cudgel for Democrats to leave behind when bashing DJT.
The article is right on. The author describes exactly why we should do away with hospitalists and let personal physicians treat their patients in hospitals.
The pushback has been getting less strident over the past few days though I don’t know how long that can be expected to last.
Of course this was a biowarfare attack, regardless of the origin of the virus, for exactly the reasons you list.
The reasons I’ve politely told that it’s NOT a bio-weapon are:
1) The assumption by the critic that a bioweapon implies that it was designed in a lab, and there’s no evidence of that. Of course, that is a strawman. Merely taking steps to spread this internationally while keeping it contained domestically is all that is needed: anything can be used as a weapon, and that’s exactly what the CCP did.
2) “It’s just the flu, bro”: the flubro contingent was deeply invested in believing that the virus was not a serious threat, and the bio-attack possibility seemed, in their minds, to undermine their thesis.
3) Animus directed at a particular long-time poster who was prematurely right about the nature of the threat, and used his long-standing practice of memeing the idea to death, and also stated the obvious postulate that he believed this to be a biological weapon. Yeah, I think the memes can be over-done too.
4) Mostly from the Flubro side, but also from the Fearpers, suggesting that this should be looked at as a biological attach by a hostile foreign power implied, in their minds, support for specific public policy actions. For example, the “attack” hypothesis was conflated with “support for the lockdown”, a position not taken by any of the posters pointing out the possibility of an attack.
But, as usual, I have learned more from the FReepers who disagree with me than those I agree with.
Do those of us who think this was bio-warfare need a cute name too? “War-pers”? “National-Defense-Pers”? Obviously I’m not good at coming up with sticky catch phrases.
You don’t necessarily need HCQ to get zinc into your cells: Quercetin and a component of green tea (EGCG) ALSO act as zinc ionophores.
Not a short article, but quite thorough and well footnoted. According to the article, 1,000 mg/day of Quercetin will have the same effect as the HCQ dosage that’s been used for the Kungflu. The EGCG can (as in might or might not) have some negative interactions with some medications (and this is no issue if you’re not taking other meds), but the Quercetin seems to be utterly safe at 1,000 mg/day for at least 12 weeks. NO PRESCRIPTION NEEDED!
What about all the other prior "flu strains" that came from China?
How do we know they were not also deliberate? And how many Americans were killed as a result? There have been enough instances to say enough is enough....let them keep their own contagions.
Xenophobic? No!
There are plenty of other third world countries to trade with, that are not trying to kill us.
I also posted this about the dosage claim on the other thread:
“According to the article, 1,000 mg/day of Quercetin will have the same effect as the HCQ dosage that’s been used for the Kungflu.”
I doubt that. I’m guessing the article errs by trying to use in vitro studies to estimate dosage, but Quercetin’s bioavailability is much less than HCQ’s.
Here’s the relevant portion of the article. Unfortunately, the article doesn’t say which studies it’s basing the dosage claim on.
“Studies are showing that Quercetin is about 35% as potent as hydrolchloroquine for the zinc transport function.
Based on our hydroxychloroquine and coronavirus review, they were using 400 mg to start and 200 for follow up days.
That would put the quercetin dosage just over 1000 mg per day which fits with the safelty test above (500 mg x 2 for 12 weeks).”
Pilloried? You are in good company.
President did not use phrase “bio-terror attack,” but he noted same thing about travel...
Tom Cotton has been pretty direct in his descriptions...
I have a personal testimony to that very thing. But personal docs are not banned from participating. Its just hard to care for ppl 24/7.
have a personal testimony to that very thing. But personal docs are not banned from participating. Its just hard to care for ppl 24/7
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Of course hard to go 24/7. But first, a doctor must have admitting privileges tto be able to even look at doc’sown patients. Corporate medicine does not want that to happen. They have hospitalists on salary to “follow their rules”. Private docs want to fine tune patient treatment. They know patient and can do a better job than a puppet of the Money counters.
But private docs do not have to carry out the hour to hour care. ER docs and nurses can step in without over riding private doc’s orders.
Frankly, I am afraid younger docs are not inclined to do that kind of micro management which so benefit patients.
Hope and pray for changes.
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