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Five Quick Things: Let That Mask Slip
The American Spectator ^ | 25 May 20 | Scott McKay

Posted on 05/25/2020 5:58:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: Tallguy; Black Agnes

From what I’ve heard, it’s less transmissible from surfaces than originally thought. That means I don’t have to do a disinfectant OCD dance each time I get the mail, but I still shower and take other precautions after buying groceries, since the stores are quite peopley.


61 posted on 05/25/2020 7:22:41 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Wrong. Why?? Because we are not talking about the need to filter “virus particles”. Bare virus particles simply don’t exist in the particulate emissions from sneezes, coughts, speech, or breathing. Those emissions are basically water drops with various concentrations of salt and other chemicals from the human system, and far larger than the quoted 0.14 micron size quoted.

The author is also wrong because he fails to account for "Brownian motion." In short, Brownian motion is the erratic, random motion of particles smaller than .3 microns that occurs when they collide with molecules while suspended in a fluid or gas. In other words, while the Wuhan flu virus would pass through an N95 mask if the virus were to travel in a straight line, because of Brownian motion, the virus snags itself in the mesh rather than passing through.

62 posted on 05/25/2020 7:23:17 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: DoodleDawg
and just think, only a few months ago, when if you walked into a place of business wearing a mask, you would be asked to leave or they would call the police.


63 posted on 05/25/2020 7:24:12 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: bray
It doesn’t look weak, more like a sheep.

Well, I guess if someone thinks I look like a sheep I must be one...

64 posted on 05/25/2020 7:24:27 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: SkyPilot

Dear Mr. McKay, you don’t know jack. I pair my mask with a personal ion generator and achieve nearly 100% filtering efficiency. I’ve been doing this for over four years to avoid the flu because I refuse to take flu shots which stimulate my B cells and cause cancer relapse. Frankly if you had what I’ve been going through for the past ten years with your stupid ideas, I’m confident that you would be a rotting corpse by now.


65 posted on 05/25/2020 7:24:32 AM PDT by diatomite (Libs, the MSM, journos, actors - all are on the low-end of the Dunning-Kreuger effect)
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To: Brown Deer

I don’t do social media., particularly Linkedin.


66 posted on 05/25/2020 7:24:36 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: MayflowerMadam

From what I’ve heard, it’s less transmissible from surfaces than originally thought. While that means I don’t have to do a disinfectant OCD dance each time I get the mail, I still take some precautions after going grocery shopping, since the stores are way peopley.


67 posted on 05/25/2020 7:24:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But you see clearly that is NOT how the general public understood that.

General public now thinks you can’t get it from surfaces...

Which was the whole point of that headline.


68 posted on 05/25/2020 7:26:10 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Exactly. Like ... normal. Pre-WuFlu we’ve been careful like that — unpack our bags and then wash our hands.


69 posted on 05/25/2020 7:27:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: semimojo

There is nothing wrong with being a sheep, the world needs sheep.


70 posted on 05/25/2020 7:29:20 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Labyrinthos
I don’t do social media...

but indeed, you are socializing here.


71 posted on 05/25/2020 7:33:18 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Black Agnes

“Luke, I am your father...”

Yes. ;)


72 posted on 05/25/2020 7:34:45 AM PDT by familyop (Hell hath no fury like a scorned parrot.)
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To: Bon of Babble
According to Dr. Blaylock, there have been no studies conducted to establish that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has an impact on the transmission of the coronavirus.

Beware of Blaylock. In my opinion he's a dishonest crank.

He argues there are no studies proving masks protect against the flu.

Why flu when we're talking about Covid-19? He says

"no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission."

But the review of literature that he cites for his core argument also says:

"Eight of nine retrospective observational studies found that mask and/or respirator use was independently associated with a reduced risk of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)."

Covid-19 is caused by a SARS virus.

See that? He fails to tell his readers that multiple studies show masks are effective against SARS viruses and instead focuses on influenza.

Why? Not because he's an honest researcher but because it gives him the answer he wants.

73 posted on 05/25/2020 7:37:48 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: NobleFree

Up here in Alberta, it’s known the masks don’t save you from anything, but people are free to go on being little obedient compliant lapdogs.


74 posted on 05/25/2020 7:39:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes, active virus can be picked up from surfaces. It works like this, in part.

Virus without moisture around it will dry out and very quickly become inactive. Virus with human bodily fluid around it will be active longer.

And then there’s the size of a viral load. Less is better.


75 posted on 05/25/2020 7:40:34 AM PDT by familyop (Hell hath no fury like a scorned parrot.)
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To: Bulwyf
Imagine thinking that volunteering to be a disease vector is an act of bravery.

Up here in Alberta, it’s known the masks don’t save you from anything, but people are free to go on being little obedient compliant lapdogs.

Well, now I don't have to imagine it.

76 posted on 05/25/2020 7:40:51 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: semimojo
"Eight of nine retrospective observational studies found that mask and/or respirator use was independently associated with a reduced risk of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)."

Good stuff! Might I trouble you for a link to that if you have it? Google doesn't find it.

77 posted on 05/25/2020 7:45:15 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: bray

Only 2% are wolves and 2% sheepdogs.


78 posted on 05/25/2020 7:46:49 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Black Agnes
Hong Kongers have worn them for over a year.

If you live in an area where you are literally living, traveling, walking shoulder to shoulder among millions I can see a masks usefullness. The chance of having someone within touching distance coughing or sneezing or physically touching/brushing against you are very good.

I live in a rural area with the largest town of 40k within driving distance and have always followed just keeping away from other folks personal space. I don't see the need for a mask and couldn't wear one more than 60 seconds if I had to. Since all the kids were grown and gone I haven't gotten a bad virus in years. Just showing that shoving 30-40 runny nosed urchins into close proximity to pass a virus around and bring it home is a prime vector even in sparsely populated areas. For those stuck in high population areas with mass transit or forced or have a habit of living shoved up against each other, they need every tool they can get to not pass crud around.

79 posted on 05/25/2020 7:49:38 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: NobleFree

Vitamin D and Vitamin C are your friends. If you like and are quite concerned, then take the drugs that Trump recommends as well as many doctors. You can do that as a precaution too. Overall, this disease has a very low morality rate yet we’ve killed our economies over this and driven in social wedges.

This is just another step toward an authoritarian state.

Go ahead and keep your opinions though. Just know it’s based on fear and not fact.


80 posted on 05/25/2020 7:51:07 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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