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Hundreds more Russian mercenaries flee western Libya: GNA forces
Al-Jazeera ^ | 5/25/20 | Khalifa Haftar

Posted on 05/26/2020 4:43:55 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: ETCM

And thank you to Trump for not getting us sucked into that hell hole.


21 posted on 05/26/2020 6:10:27 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: ETCM

I must say, Russia and Turkey have the most inscrutable relations. Didn’t the Russians sell the Turks an AA system (same kind that brought down that airliner over the Ukraine) only two maybe three years ago? Now they’re on opposite sides in the Libyan civil war?


22 posted on 05/26/2020 6:26:41 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Turkey bought Russian S-400 missiles designed to down NATO planes. For the US, that’s a problem

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/13/europe/turkey-russia-missiles-nato-analysis-intl/index.html

What a mess. Ironically it was Turkey that shot down a Russian fighter in Syria.


23 posted on 05/26/2020 6:35:46 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: BradyLS

Yes, the Turks also shot down a Russian Jet back in 2015, killing the pilot, and more recently have had several skirmishes along the Turkey/Syria border. Definitely a hot/cold relationship.


24 posted on 05/26/2020 6:44:33 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: jdsteel

Amen!


25 posted on 05/26/2020 6:47:06 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Turkey supports Sunni jihadists (ISIS, al Queda, Muslim Brotherhood).

They (Erdogan) are positioning to be the main State supporter of fundamentalist Sunni takeovers in the region - a new Ottoman Empire.

In Libya, Turkey is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood (and the rest of the International jihadist witches brew of groups), including recruiting them directly from Syria, and running them in Libya.

The other side of the conflict (anti-jihadi) includes Egypt, Saudi Arabia. likely the USA (covertly), and Russia.

North Africa, like the Middle East, is a complicated series of relationships, where everybody is friends with some countries on some things and enemies with the same countries on some differing sets of things - and then they shift every once in while.


26 posted on 05/26/2020 6:50:55 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Secret Agent Man

The munitions would have been ordnance for the fighter jets?


27 posted on 05/26/2020 6:52:22 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken th sprayat's fore<p> sure)
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To: rfp1234
Yup. Morocco (which has sealed its border with Algeria) might be the last fortress of sanity in Islam.

What makes you say that? Just curious.

28 posted on 05/26/2020 7:09:23 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ETCM
Thank you Obama, Biden and Petraeus!

You forgot Hillary. She was neck-deep in this mess too.

29 posted on 05/26/2020 7:10:08 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: cloudmountain
It's generally more moderate than the other Islamic countries, doesn't seem to have much terrorism, and doesn't fund terror groups. That's why we barely hear about Morocco, although a few of its emigrants misbehaved once they landed in Europe.

P.S. Never been there, I just read a lot.

30 posted on 05/26/2020 11:20:13 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: BradyLS

There is one thing always to remember. Every Tsar at least since Peter the Great has wanted Constantinople, the Bosporus, and the Dardanelles. Erdogan is playing with Fire.


31 posted on 05/27/2020 4:12:28 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Time to bring in Qadaffi’s gorgeous palace guards! I see another Halle Barry movie...


32 posted on 05/27/2020 8:34:52 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: rfp1234
From the Internet:

Morocco has capitalized on its proximity to Europe and relatively low labor costs to work towards building a diverse, open, market-oriented economy. Key sectors of the economy include agriculture, tourism, aerospace, automotive, phosphates, textiles, apparel, and subcomponents. Morocco has increased investment in its port, transportation, and industrial infrastructure to position itself as a center and broker for business throughout Africa. Industrial development strategies and infrastructure improvements - most visibly illustrated by a new port and free trade zone near Tangier - are improving Morocco's competitiveness.

In the 1980s, Morocco was a heavily indebted country before pursuing austerity measures and pro-market reforms, overseen by the IMF. Since taking the throne in 1999, King MOHAMMED VI has presided over a stable economy marked by steady growth, low inflation, and gradually falling unemployment, although poor harvests and economic difficulties in Europe contributed to an economic slowdown. To boost exports, Morocco entered into a bilateral Free Trade Agreement with the US in 2006 and an Advanced Status agreement with the EU in 2008. In late 2014, Morocco eliminated subsidies for gasoline, diesel, and fuel oil, dramatically reducing outlays that weighed on the country’s budget and current account. Subsidies on butane gas and certain food products remain in place. Morocco also seeks to expand its renewable energy capacity with a goal of making renewable more than 50% of installed electricity generation capacity by 2030.

Despite Morocco's economic progress, the country suffers from high unemployment, poverty, and illiteracy, particularly in rural areas. Key economic challenges for Morocco include reforming the education system and the judiciary.
https://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/morocco.algeria/economy

They have a ways to go but they are aware of what they must do. Education is the key.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has made a concerted effort to educate its young. It started in the early 1980's. They know that their petroleum and natural gas reserves will run out one day and they ARE planning ahead for it.

33 posted on 05/27/2020 8:36:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Khalifa Haftar's yearlong Tripoli offensive against the Ankara-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) began to collapse. Believed to have been supplied to the Libyan strongman as early as last year by his backers [Iran's stooges] in the Gulf, the Russian system was meant to be used as a trump card against Turkey's combat unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) air interdiction operations... Analysis of open source data has estimated that up to 9 Pantsir units were lost in quick succession to UAV strikes during May, with footage of the strikes going viral on social media. To add insult to injury, a tenth Pantsir system was dramatically captured by GNA forces, and to great fanfare paraded through Tripoli as a war trophy. It is speculated that the captured Pantsir's final fate is to be picked apart for intelligence purposes.
Libya: A Catastrophe for Russia's Pantsir S1 Air Defense System

34 posted on 06/23/2020 2:51:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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