OK, the guy was a walking (health) time bomb.
But you don’t pin a person on the ground by compressing his neck with your knee if he’s not resisting in a very serious way. That method could be life threatening or crippling to a healthy person.
These cops don’t get a pass from me.
he was resisting in a serious way and had bags of what appear to be drugs drop from his body. the 911 said he appeared intoxicated.
that said, a knee on the neck is APPROVED police procedure but I can see all kinds of ways it could go wrong
I agree. He may have been a porn making gangster with a criminal record and drugged up but what that prick did when he had cuffs on can’t be justified.
Im not sure ALL of the cops are responsible. But until we see the body cam and how Floyd was acting that prompted the police to be over him, Ill withhold judgment. Perhaps Officer Knee-ly was using his knee to avoid getting China Virus? That might be his best excuse. And he better have a good one.
Only, he did resist in a very serious way. He resisted up until the last 2 minutes and 43 seconds. That is the time period which is problematic.
That method is not life threatening if used properly. We have no evidence it was not used properly.
The video can be deceptive.
Floyd was saying "He could not breathe".
That has been taken to mean he could not breathe because of the neck restraint.
But it could easily be because of the heart issues and drug use/abuse.
From the video can you measure the actual pressure being applied to the neck and where exactly the pressure was applied? Was it simply enough force applied to keep Floyd from lifting his head, or deliberately meant to crush his neck to the point that the trachea could not allow a free flow of air? Or are you just assuming with wishful thinking it must be excessive because you want it to be? Leave your emotions from the visual out of it... and think it through clearly and rationally.
I watched the video and saw the knee on the SIDE of Floyd’s neck, not on the back of his neck. I had my friend put his knee on my neck in the same manner I saw the cop holding his knee to Floyd’s neck. I could breath without a problem but there was pain/discomfort depending on the pressure from the knee. Though Floyd’s death may have been preventable, I do believe it was the other cops who exacerbated the difficulty of breathing Floyd struggled with. The medical examiners report corroborates this by concluding there were no signs of strangulation and or chocking that would have blocked his ability to breath normally through his nose/mouth and trachea. I believe he was unable to take air into his lungs because of either the pressure being applied to his back by the other cops and/or a combination of seizure/respiratory attack possibly induced by drugs and/or pre-existing condition.
Any ways... that’s what I saw and concluded. But I do not believe Floyd was intentionally murdered by the cop, and most likely died of asphyxiation but not by the cop with his knee on his neck.
I can see the neck pin while you’re controlling him, but once you got two other guys on top, and he’s cuffed, basically seconds, it’s excess. It’s really excess once the guy goes silent. Covid or no.
The cops couldn’t know about all his medical conditions, or that he was in public spreading the virus, but they are trusted by the public to retain enough situational awareness to recognize when to switch from “restraint” to “protect”.
Unfortunately, the story of police brutality was hijacked by those who cherry-picked the race of the arresting officers to make it a race issue instead of what it really is - excessive use of force beyond what the circumstances required.
How do you know if Floyd was resisting or not?
Did you see uninterrupted video of the arrest from beginning to end or just snippets showing one side of the story?
Do you even care about the full story or are you jumping on the bandwagon because you were manipulated by edited videos?
Think about it.