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U.S. Marine Corps Issues Ban on Confederate Battle Flags
New York Times ^ | 6/6/20 | Jenny Gross

Posted on 06/06/2020 7:40:09 PM PDT by Meatspace

The U.S. Marine Corps on Friday issued detailed directives about removing and banning public displays of the Confederate battle flag at Marine installations — an order that extended to such items as mugs, posters and bumper stickers.

“Current events are a stark reminder that it is not enough for us to remove symbols that cause division — rather, we also must strive to eliminate division itself,” the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. David H. Berger, said in a statement on Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confederacy; davidberger; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; obama; usmc
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To: Meatspace

Will they ban the Indian Confederate Battle Flags of the American Indians who sided with the Confederacy in the Civil War?

There are several you could fly all day and no one would know they were Confederate.

The tribes that made or were negotiating treaties with the Confederacy.
Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Comanches, Wachitas, Kiowas, Pottawattamies, Chickasaws, Osages, Seminoles, Senecas, Shawnees, Quawpaws.

The South also had Indian agents operating all throughout the High Plains and mountain region stirring up other tribes such as the Sioux, Cheyenne, Navajo and Apaches to make war on the Union at that time.
Their traditional enemies, Pawnee, Kaw, Osage (well, part of them) remained loyal to the Union.

“There is little doubt that the recent outbreak in the Northwest (Minnesota Uprising)has resulted from the efforts of secession agents operating through Canadian Indians and fur-traders.”—Mr Giddings, US Counsul-general in Canada


41 posted on 06/06/2020 9:32:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Lurkinanloomin

And Here is the Cherokee Indian Confederate Flag.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1768/1915/products/Cherokee_Braves_1024x1024.jpg?v=1571331354


42 posted on 06/06/2020 9:36:16 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yldstrk

What a pussy you are


43 posted on 06/06/2020 9:37:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And the Choctaw Confederate Battle flag..

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ToonEtv-L._AC_SX450_.jpg


44 posted on 06/06/2020 9:38:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yldstrk

He’s right

Eff you

You’ve always race baited here


45 posted on 06/06/2020 9:39:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: Meatspace

General Karen Berger, Commandant of the Marine Corps


46 posted on 06/06/2020 9:40:06 PM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: amorphous

>> Meanwhile Amazon sticks Black Movies in your face

Yup, the entirety of ordinary, non-racist subscribers must be forced to endure the modish hate-America agenda.


47 posted on 06/06/2020 9:53:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric ( Don't be a statist!)
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To: Meatspace
I wonder why people would think that removing Confederate symbols would eliminate division when a large percentage of Americans oppose removing them, some vehemently (oh, I get it -- as long as they don't riot, they don't count ;-). Even if it's not a majority, it's a substantial percentage, and what happened to multiculturalism? Does multiculturalism mean accepting diversity or not?

It's quite possible to recognize that slavery was a evil -- as almost everyone does -- while judging people of the past in the context of their societies. Confederates identified with their region (as Americans had in the American Revolution), and fought for what they recognized as their homeland. Though it's undeniable that the Confederacy gave special status to slavery, records show that most Confederate soldiers came from households that didn't own slaves.

Here's a poll that concluded -- "A majority of Americans want to preserve Confederate monuments: Reuters/Ipsos poll".

48 posted on 06/06/2020 9:57:08 PM PDT by GJones2 (Cultural purge of monuments and names of Confederates and former slaveholders)
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To: wardaddy

bull, I don’t do that. You are not right


49 posted on 06/06/2020 10:11:50 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: wardaddy

>>”[Your tag] I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision...”<<

What comments (do you have a link)? Are you saying he supports taking them down? What about monuments to former slaveholders like Washington and Jefferson, and the name of the capital of the country itself?

If you expect people of the past to meet the standards of today rather than those of the people around them, then it’s going to be hard to find anyone who stands up to scrutiny. Nearly everyone was racist, including Lincoln. Sexist too.

As a teenager, I opposed the system of Jim Crow when 90% of my fellow white Southerners supported it. I did so because I saw it was unjust, and because I favor the rights of people as human beings. I continued to support the civil rights movement until it was turned on its head, and became identity politics. Again there’s judgment of things in terms of race, just with the tables turned. I favor treating people as individuals. I also oppose this cultural purge.


50 posted on 06/06/2020 10:17:36 PM PDT by GJones2 (Cultural purge of monuments and names of Confederates and former slaveholders)
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To: Gene Eric
Yup, the entirety of ordinary, non-racist subscribers must be forced to endure the modish hate-America agenda.

So far tonight, Amazon's little act has cost them $30. And we will be looking for additional ways of buying what my wife and I need/want from other sources. We buy thousands of dollars worth of goods through Amazon per month. But we WILL take our business elsewhere. Many of the Amazon vendors have their own website and you can buy directly from them. We WILL not worship the race of anyone. To do so is the height of racism. America was built by people of all races, creeds, and colors. In the country I grew up in, we worshiped God and rarely ever considered someones race in our personal dealings. My insurance agent for 40+ years is black. Some of my best friends in life have been black. Our Amazon bill this month will be the lowest in years. We may take a beating, but it will be on our feet fighting back, not on our knees.

51 posted on 06/06/2020 10:20:16 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Retain Mike
The vast majority of Confederate soldiers never practiced or believed in slavery. They fought for their own reasons which had nothing to do with the above. One of the best accounts of what led to the confrontation between The States, can be found in the pages of "Destruction and Reconstruction" - by Richard L. Taylor

In this unique series, the Civil War comes vividly to life, as those who were there give eye-witness accounts from both sides of the bloody conflict. A sugar farmer and gentleman politician with no military training before the war, General Richard Taylor--son of President Zachary Taylor--plays a major role in the Red River campaign. Out of print since 1879.

It can also be found for free in electronic format on many websites, including google books.

52 posted on 06/06/2020 10:34:36 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: yldstrk
said, "I know the others interpret it my eye color as a sign of white supremacy"
Fixed
53 posted on 06/06/2020 11:01:27 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: yldstrk

You’re part of the problem

Piss on you


54 posted on 06/06/2020 11:04:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: GJones2

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3745601/posts

Post 3


55 posted on 06/06/2020 11:06:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: wardaddy

>> “https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3745601/posts Post 3”

I’m pleased to see that he’s not supporting removing them (”Good. They’d be coming after Washington and Jefferson next. Damned God-hating, America-hating Marxist/fascist book burners.”)


56 posted on 06/06/2020 11:25:53 PM PDT by GJones2 (Cultural purge of monuments and names of Confederates and former slaveholders)
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To: amorphous

I hear ya’. It’s a tough situation when we find ourselves being manipulated by the retail & media giants that have essentially eradicated the alternatives.

>> We may take a beating, but it will be on our feet fighting back, not on our knees.

Exactly, and Amazon needs to know that.

It’s a safe bet for the big corporations to play along with the racism narrative. The big corps know the economic engine they rely will survive the insults regularly inflected upon their customers in the name of racial justice. It’s unfortunate simply because the racial charade has little to do with the honest growth of every citizen regardless of his/her God-given features.


57 posted on 06/06/2020 11:33:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric ( Don't be a statist!)
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To: amorphous

The Spotify Music app looks similar, except Spotify is promoting Rap and other Black Music. Spotify is all in on this blatant virtue signaling.

It’s kind of amusing, considering that Spotify is based in Sweden. But, as most Freepers know, Swedes are fond of virtue signaling.

Speaking of Amazon, you are not alone in your disgust. This morning, on Facebook, I had a least two High School classmates complaining of Amazon’s pandering to BLM.


58 posted on 06/06/2020 11:39:03 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (“Welcome Down to my Planet Hell”- Nightwish)
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To: Gene Eric
Well said Gene Eric.

This madness is spreading worldwide. It causes me to recall a verse in the book of Jeremiah (51:7) which says:

Babylon was a gold cup in the hand of the LORD, making the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore the nations have gone mad.

Jeremiah was prophesying about a future Babylon.

59 posted on 06/06/2020 11:44:10 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

See #59.


60 posted on 06/06/2020 11:44:56 PM PDT by amorphous
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