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Why white people seem to be changing their minds, suddenly, on the justice system and race (Barf)
Seattle Times ^ | June 10, 2020 | Danny Westneat

Posted on 06/10/2020 6:10:17 AM PDT by Stravinsky

The current civil rights movement is being led by African Americans and other people of color, with the broader media for the most part featuring their stories and their voices. And rightly so.

But something else is happening here, too. There’s been an abrupt sea change among the white people of America — at least for the moment — on issues that have seemed in the past to be intractably set in stone.

“In my 35 years of polling, I’ve never seen opinion shift this fast or deeply,” wrote the Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Monday. “We are a different country today than just 30 days ago. The consequences politically, economically, and socially are too great to fit into a tweet.”

What he’s talking about is a spate of extraordinary recent polls in which it appears to have suddenly dawned on white people that African Americans and other people of color were right all along: We really do still live in a racially tilted, inequitable, unfair society.

“Do you think the country’s criminal justice system treats whites and Blacks equally, or does it favor whites?” a CNN poll asked this week. This question has been posed many times over the years, with the predictable result that whites tend to feel we live in a more equal society, while people of color do not.

But this time, white people agreed the justice system is tilted toward them — and by a landslide 34% margin, 63% to 29%. That’s an unheard-of 41-point swing of opinion among whites compared with when the same question was asked five years ago.

There have been a slew of these polls in the past week in which whites suddenly are answering questions about racism, the protests and the police in ways closer to how people of color...

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KEYWORDS: hysteria; marxism; racism; whitepeople
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1 posted on 06/10/2020 6:10:17 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: Stravinsky

>>“In my 35 years of polling, I’ve never seen opinion shift this fast or deeply,” wrote the Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Monday. “We are a different country today than just 30 days ago. The consequences politically, economically, and socially are too great to fit into a tweet.”

How odd that it occurs as the Democrats need a hail satan play to win the 2020 election.

Didn’t matter one iota to the Democrats when Obama-Biden were in the White House for 8 years and they ran the Legislative table with control of both the House and Senate.


2 posted on 06/10/2020 6:12:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Stravinsky

1. Shaming

2. It’s part of the narrative coming out of the universities like a drumbeat. And, after all, the universities are the repositories of truth, right?


3 posted on 06/10/2020 6:13:08 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Stravinsky

I stick with my basic idea that Polls do not measure how people think about any particular issue. That is not the purpose of a poll.

Polls are tools of political manipulation. They are intended to persuade people that they should adopt a viewpoint that has already been preselected for them.

I know how I feel about the current situation. I’m angry.


4 posted on 06/10/2020 6:14:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Stravinsky
"We really do still live in a racially tilted, inequitable, unfair society. "

Absolutely.

H->! and Comey need to be locked up as a show of solidarity.

5 posted on 06/10/2020 6:14:36 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Stravinsky

“In my 35 years of polling, I’ve never seen opinion shift this fast or deeply,” wrote the Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Monday


Does he not understand we don’t answer those stupid polls?

They are worthless.


6 posted on 06/10/2020 6:15:57 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Stravinsky

We have seen Americans are very pliable during the shutdown shaming. Now there is race shaming and no alternative message was allowed for the first two weeks. Now, alternative views and the extreme views of the BLM organization are coming out, it will evolve further.


7 posted on 06/10/2020 6:15:58 AM PDT by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates.)
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To: Migraine

Yeah well I haven’t changed my mind. this country is over whether it’s 10 years or 20 years from now but I will go down swinging.

I hate to say that this country is over down the line but the colleges have completely brainwashed tens of millions of white kids. The America we know will be completely gone.

That doesn’t mean we stop fighting. We fight twice as hard and go down swinging

If whites are changing their minds that fast then we need the civil war to come even faster while we still have the numbers

There are 300 million arrests every year in the United States. No unit or group can be perfect. this was ridiculous. A sea-change? They are destroying the country. 300 million arrests. One guy gets killed and all of a sudden it’s the end of the world

and yes the content of his character does matter. There is more to this story possibly because they worked together. Maybe they had a run-in. But he wasn’t pulled over for jaywalking. anyone that has ever put a knife to a pregnant woman’s stomach, I don’t care if it was 40 years ago, doesn’t need to be walking the streets

I did a lot of bad things in my late teens and twenties. It never ever ever crossed my mind that I would threaten a woman or child


8 posted on 06/10/2020 6:18:17 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of tis she the onehe Republic is at stake. We now know dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: Stravinsky

So if we all must pick a side,


and what are those sides? like there isn’t another option.

If the poll asked about equality before the law, what would the response be?

That is the position of Trump and I support him. Let the justice system work. Don’t get on your knee.


9 posted on 06/10/2020 6:20:17 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

CNN poll...that’s what this story is quoting. BS. Gaslighting 101


10 posted on 06/10/2020 6:22:34 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Stravinsky

Umm, here we go again with the generalizations.

Got news for the progressive cancerous tards at the Seattle Times, the ‘whites’ you may be referring to are those kowtowing tards within Dem run cities, most of us ‘whites’ outside the cancerous cities are not coming around.

I live in a rural county in SE, VA and it is comprised of largely black people.....how come they not having real issues with this ‘police and race/racism’ sh*t unlike you dumbarse mofos in the cities? Go F off, kkthx, most of rural America not buying the sh*t you selling.


11 posted on 06/10/2020 6:27:05 AM PDT by cranked
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Not anywhere except inside the little queer district in Seattle known as Capitol Hill. This article is amazingly navel watching obtuse in ignorance.


12 posted on 06/10/2020 6:30:37 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Stravinsky
Derek Chauvin may go down as the Gavril Princip of the 21st century.

Just like Princip, it's likely all the madness would have followed without either of them, but their actions became convenient excuses for it.

13 posted on 06/10/2020 6:34:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: dp0622

NO ONE ASKED VICTIMS!we want JUSTICE AND NOT 27 YRS DOWN THE ROAD, IF AT ALL.

MOTHER OF MURDERED CHILD, BFF 8 YR OLD RAPED/MURDERED 1990; DNA PROOF, STILL ON TENNESSEE D.R. STALLED AS WU-FLU PREVENTS 10 YRS OF MORE FEDERAL APPEALS IN OHIO.

I’M MAD AS HELL.


14 posted on 06/10/2020 6:36:35 AM PDT by GailA ( I AM A TRUMP GIRL)
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Wow. I don’t know what to say.

I am very sorry.

I will say some prayers for them.

It’s a shocking thing to read


15 posted on 06/10/2020 6:45:37 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of tis she the onehe Republic is at stake. We now know dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Polls can be made to show almost anything the people who issue the polls want to see. Still not a real true picture of what the general public is thinking. That’s what an election is for providing someone (likely the pollsters)doesn’t come along & try to corrupt the election process.


16 posted on 06/10/2020 6:54:38 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: a fool in paradise

Luntz is not a republican pollster. In a former lifetime maybe. His data is fake.


17 posted on 06/10/2020 6:55:25 AM PDT by blackberry1
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To: Stravinsky

schools, schools, schools

indoctrination centers for the youth of America


18 posted on 06/10/2020 7:08:50 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Stravinsky

The situation at virtually every gun store in the country tells a different story. The customers at all the local gun stores I am familiar with has changed dramatically in the last 60 days. The percentage of white single women buying a gun has skyrocketed and the number of soy boi’s has also gone up dramatically. How do people vote when they don’t feel secure in their own home? My guess is not with the mob.

And many are at the gun store spending their “Trump” checks!


19 posted on 06/10/2020 7:11:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Stravinsky

Much like polling after a mass shooting shows an increase in support of stricter gun laws and then that support diminishes to what it was before the mass shooting occurred. It usually settles back down in a matter of months. This is probably not going to be much different. *If* you believe the polls.


20 posted on 06/10/2020 7:53:02 AM PDT by FR33DOM4ME
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