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Soldiers fell to their deaths as India and China's troops fought with rocks
The Guardian ^ | 17 June 2020 | Michael Safi , Helen Davidson and Hannah Ellis-Petersen

Posted on 06/17/2020 6:24:54 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The hand-to-hand combat lasted hours, on steep, jagged terrain, with iron bars, rocks and fists. Neither side carried guns. Most of the soldiers killed in the worst fighting between India and China in 60 years lost their footing or were knocked from the narrow Himalayan ridge, plunging to their deaths.

A day after reports of the “violent face-off” in the western Himalayas emerged, Indian news outlets began naming some of the dead and a clearer picture started to build of what transpired on Monday night on the high, steep ridge lines above the fast-flowing Galwan River.

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Reinforcements from the Indian side were summoned from a post about 2 miles away and eventually about 600 men were fighting with stones, iron rods and other makeshift weapons in near-total darkness for up to six hours, Indian government sources said, with most deaths on both sides occurring from soldiers falling or being knocked from mountain terrain.

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At least four more Indian soldiers were said to be in critical condition. Indian media outlets cited intelligence sources claiming up to 50 Chinese soldiers may have been killed in the melee but did not present the evidence. Chinese CCTV’s widely watched evening news broadcast made no mention of the border confrontation on Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; die; india; troops
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Apparently the Chinese lost far more, but don't want to talk about it. 50 or so Chinese killed AND they're burning pictures of Xi. Hmmm...what will the Chinese do? will they react like Seattle authorities? I wonder...
1 posted on 06/17/2020 6:24:54 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

War sure has regressed quite a bit


2 posted on 06/17/2020 6:27:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Shangri la is getting further away.


3 posted on 06/17/2020 6:27:51 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’m very confused as to why neither side would be armed. Could’ve routed the other side in short order, or avoided a fight all together. Guns could’ve saved lives here.


4 posted on 06/17/2020 6:29:44 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Leftists want to ban military style weapons, or any weapon that is or was used by the military. So, no more rocks? I better call a landscaping company... ;-/


5 posted on 06/17/2020 6:29:58 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Both sides being out on patrol, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t at least have a sidearm.


6 posted on 06/17/2020 6:30:12 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: thefactor
I’m very confused as to why neither side would be armed.

Perhaps the area is so tense that both sides agree a rock toss is better than a shoot out.

7 posted on 06/17/2020 6:33:37 AM PDT by fso301
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To: thefactor

They preferred honor to life. I would call it admirable.


8 posted on 06/17/2020 6:34:03 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: BBQToadRibs
Both sides being out on patrol, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t at least have a sidearm.

They have agreed to not carry arms in that region to avoid major bloodshed, I believe. However, this fight was so intense, quite a few people got thrown off of the cliffs. China will probably seek advice from New York, ,Seattle, Ferguson or California authorities on how to handle those "Democrat" Indians.

9 posted on 06/17/2020 6:35:01 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: thefactor

By mutual agreement.


10 posted on 06/17/2020 6:35:14 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If only deadly weapons were banned.................Oh.


11 posted on 06/17/2020 6:36:16 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Let’s see. They have gone from words to sticks and stones. No doubt more will be coming. The only question is: Will the US be wise enough just to watch?


12 posted on 06/17/2020 6:37:09 AM PDT by allendale
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To: HighSierra5

Jane Wyatt’s been gone awhile now.


13 posted on 06/17/2020 6:37:16 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: cmj328

“The goal isn’t to die for your country, it’s to make the other guy die for his” or something like that.


14 posted on 06/17/2020 6:37:51 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When they start throwing PIES at each other we’ll know that it is REALLY over.


15 posted on 06/17/2020 6:38:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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First they shoot at each other with guns; then some one calls in the arty; then some one calls in air support; then the tanks are called up and so on. Its not about saving lives, its about avoiding a major war with the use of nukes on the table.


16 posted on 06/17/2020 6:38:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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...I’m very confused as to why neither side would be armed...

Both India and China have agreed to no guns at this point, in order to prevent escalation.

...Guns could’ve saved lives here...

Since both sides have nuclear weapons, there is a good chance that introducing firearms into the fight would have resulted in artillery, then aircraft, and sooner or later a major exchange.

Be thankful they did not use guns.

17 posted on 06/17/2020 6:39:02 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: ThunderSleeps

Just laid out 2 yards of 4” minus river rocks to make a dry creek bed so if things get bad I should have a pretty good stock pile of ammo. Looks fairly decent too. LOL!


18 posted on 06/17/2020 6:39:22 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hey, rocks work great if you have high ground and are dropping them on people below. It is just a tool. If you can’t see much in the dark and spray and pray is just a waste of ammo, dropping boulders down a hillside to hit as many people on a narrow trail below is not the worst strategy.

But I have no clue the actual melee here. They could have been just smashing each other on the head while fighting along the same narrow trail. I don’t know.


19 posted on 06/17/2020 6:40:28 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: cloudmountain
When they start throwing PIES at each other we’ll know that it is REALLY over.

Saturday Night Live should do a skit where Indians and Chinese are beating the hell out of each other and suddenly, a FAT Chinese (or Indian) woman begins to sing and they all smile and shake hands and break it up.

20 posted on 06/17/2020 6:41:02 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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