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Navy will not reinstate fired Captain (USS Roosevelt)
The Hill ^ | June 19, 2020 | Rebecca Kheel and Ellen Mitchell

Posted on 06/19/2020 12:10:53 PM PDT by ripnbang

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To: ripnbang

So he is kicked out of Navy?


21 posted on 06/19/2020 1:13:16 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: woodpusher

Hopefully no promotion ever for Baker
He had a bad relationship with Crozier. Probably why he wrote the email


22 posted on 06/19/2020 1:16:10 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: gcparent

He did not die as a result of serving his country. Lighten up. His wife is also a lard ass.


23 posted on 06/19/2020 1:16:31 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: ConservativeInPA

He died while serving his country! Why are you calling his wife names? You see photos 2 young babies now w/o a father on Fathers Day. You are cruel and no gentleman. I guess your wife looks like Twiggy.


24 posted on 06/19/2020 1:23:08 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: gcparent

Fat people should not be in the military. Call me old fashioned. It’s time to end this PC crap in the military. You sound like a typical Karen. My wife has nothing to do with this, but you can feel free to insult her since you are a hypocrite.


25 posted on 06/19/2020 1:28:10 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: ripnbang
The reason that Capt. Crozier should not be reinistated is not for anything he did, which he could have survived, but for what he didn't do. He was in command and failed to demonstrate command initiative. He had all the resources at his command of a Navy Aircraft Carrier, including a crew of 5,000 men good and true, a surgical staff and medical facilities, and all the resources of a nuclear maintenance capability and aircraft maintenance capability.

His medical officers had access to satellite communications with Bethesda Naval Hospital and the best thinking [yeah, I know, but still] of the adjacent NIH.

If he couldn't figure out how to contain and control the spread of COVID 19 on his ship then no one could.

Instead he whined to anyone he could think. It's like Grant writing a message saying, well, Abe, Vicksburg is on the wrong side of the River. Men sick and starving. Don't know what to do. Send help.

26 posted on 06/19/2020 1:29:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ConservativeInPA

“The crew member was fat and out of shape. That made him vulnerable to the ChiCom flu. Fat asses should not serve in our military. They put others in danger.”

Is that you, Admiral Rickover?


27 posted on 06/19/2020 1:46:38 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: ripnbang

All information about mission readiness is classified ... he blew it and got nailed.


28 posted on 06/19/2020 1:54:02 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet
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well, Abe, Vicksburg is on the wrong side of the River. Men sick and starving. Don't know what to do. Send help.

Awesome example...

29 posted on 06/19/2020 2:04:49 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: gcparent; frog in a pot
[frog in a pot #16] That is interesting. As Paul Harvey would have said...

[gcparent #22] Hopefully no promotion ever for Baker. He had a bad relationship with Crozier. Probably why he wrote the email.

As I opined previously on 4/16, I believe the email may have originally been drafted as a naval letter, submitted via RADM Baker, and Crozier sent his email after Baker did not forward the letter. This is why I believe Baker was in trouble, and why the acting SECNAV took a private jet to Guam.

The PDF of the letter is mostly in naval letter format on command letterhead. Metadata indicates creation on a XeroxWorkcentre 7830 on March 29, 2020, at 10:35:36 pm. The PDF letter (email attachment) is dated 30 Mar 20.

The transmitted PDF appears to be a cut and paste of the text of an actual naval letter, or draft of a naval letter, with the BLUF (bottom line up front) paragraph inserted before numbered paragraph (1). The heading was stripped, and the text beginning with paragraph (1) was cut and pasted.

If it were there, the heading would tell you where the letter either went, or was intended to go. It could only have been addressed UP the chain of command. The heading should have looked something like this:

From: Commanding Officer, USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71)

To: ?

Via: Commander, Carrier Strike Group Nine

There could have been multiple via addressees, depending on how high up the chain it was intended to go. The first "Via" addressee would have been the Rear Admiral onboard the USS Roosevelt, RADM Stu Baker. That would have been the first place it went, for endorsement and forwarding.

Capt. Crozier was NOT the senior officer on the ship. That officer was RADM Baker who must have approved the port visit to Vietnam.

The "To" addressee would be however high up the chain it was meant to go. It could have been the next senior admiral to RADM Baker, or anyone up the chain.

If the letter was actually submitted to RADM Baker, it does not appear to have been endorsed and forwarded by RADM Baker.

The ship was in port at Guam on March 27th. Capt. Crozier pushed his email send button on March 30th. His crew had still not been evacuated.

When all are onboard:

Ship's Company 3,200
Air Wing 2,480
Admiral's Staff
Marine Detachment

Undoubtedly, the email blast went around RADM Baker. That may, or may not, have occurred after a possible submission of the letter to RADM Baker went unforwarded.


30 posted on 06/19/2020 2:23:01 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: ripnbang

GOOD NEWS!!!


31 posted on 06/19/2020 2:26:03 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: ConservativeInPA
This pussy captain needs to stay fired. He let a little virus that killed only one fat ass crew member sideline one of the most powerful weapons we have. The PC crap has to end in our military.

Your contempt for the military is duly noted.

32 posted on 06/19/2020 2:27:47 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Amen!


33 posted on 06/19/2020 2:39:05 PM PDT by onyx (#StandWithICE. - #KAG #TRUMP2020Landslide)
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To: woodpusher

The visit to Viet nam was approved way up i think someone named Davidson.


34 posted on 06/19/2020 2:50:46 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: DoodleDawg

Thank you. He had served his country 20 years. Also on his fb page there was a photo of him working out wearing shorts and t-shirt in 2017. Extremely fit with biceps. Good looking guy. Sorry I can’t link.


35 posted on 06/19/2020 2:55:35 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: AndyJackson

It was talk like that which so alarmed Nimitz that he relieved Admiral Ghormley in Guadalcanal and replace him with Halsey.

To be fair, Ghormley was not suited to that command to begin with (in retrospect)


36 posted on 06/19/2020 2:58:03 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’ve never commented on another poster, but your comments are disgusting. Oh, and your a real POS.


37 posted on 06/19/2020 3:05:15 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: AndyJackson

Med staff on board advised Crozier 50 could die.


38 posted on 06/19/2020 3:05:28 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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Pics of Chief Petty Officer Charles Robert Thacker Jr
and his wife.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/17/03/27301058-0-image-a-4_1587091489465.jpg


39 posted on 06/19/2020 3:11:17 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’d like to see Modly as SecDef.


40 posted on 06/19/2020 3:12:18 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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