You two have become the enemy. Sniping from the back row of the peanut gallery is a positively left wing action.
You hurt rather than advance the conservative cause
IT people refuse to accept that IT - as a discipline - has become just another commodity. As an ancillary skill for tactical use by professionals in other fields, it still has value. As a career specialty, most IT work has become too commoditized to pay enough to support an educated American.
Hey bert ! Do you know that you are one fine specimen of POS.