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Mitch McConnell Flouts Trump, Again Says Russia Should Not Be Allowed in G7
Newsweek ^ | June 30 2020 | JEFFERY MARTIN

Posted on 06/30/2020 4:10:15 PM PDT by rintintin

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To: ARW

Why don’t we start by just leaving people alone.


41 posted on 06/30/2020 5:51:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: JonPreston
No, America does thanks to our continued propping up of NATO (hey, where did that peace dividend go when the wall came down?). Stop sounding like Max Boot, and more like a critical thinking American.

There was a massive peace dividend. We dropped military spending from an 80's peak of 7% of national output, to about 3%. Even in the current 4% range, we are now near post-WWII lows, re defense as a % of national output, and well below the Eisenhower era's low teens number. Not that the media will ever mention this fact:


42 posted on 06/30/2020 5:56:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I’m a nationalist, not a globalist. That’s why I supported Trump in 2016. It’s also why he was the first GOP presidential candidate I supported since 2000.

From my profile page ...

The United States should be isolationist by nature and interventionist in rare, exceptional cases. That’s the only legitimate political stature for a country that is supposed to be built on the idea of limited government. A government that pisses away thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on military campaigns in Islamic sh!t-holes halfway around the world while facilitating an invasion of Third World peasants here at home has no moral claim on any loyalty from its citizens anymore.

43 posted on 06/30/2020 5:56:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Zhang Fei
You forget that when Trump assumed power there was plenty of loud angry insults between Trump and Kim. The Dems and the media were freaking out with “Trump is going to get us in a nuclear war”
The Governor of Hawaii deliberately sent out a false alarm of an incoming nuclear missile from North Korea to stoke up mass hysteria. People called their loved ones and bade them good bye.
How we forget all that time.
This is no time for Trump to start exchanging insults with Kim again. Tough sanctions plus hard negotiations. It's a good thing he got rid of Bolton who never fought a war in his life, but then has never seen a war he didn't want to send other people's sons to.
Way I see it, Trump will eventually reach an agreement with Kim. Just not in his first term.
44 posted on 06/30/2020 5:59:57 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Alas Babylon!
Yet here we are, with members of his own party, once again defying the President.

There is a lot of defying the President from Republican lawmakers lately. That is one side effect of the fake polls from the fake news media which have Biden winning in a landslide . The GOPe has never been known for having an backbone. They usually fold at the slightest hint of trouble.

45 posted on 06/30/2020 6:08:16 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: JonPreston

I trust Putin and Russia more than McConnell and this Chinese held, Republican senate.

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Amen!


46 posted on 06/30/2020 6:11:04 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Zhang Fei

So that’s why we arm the Kurds?


47 posted on 06/30/2020 6:11:32 PM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: Zhang Fei

... the average independent voter who doesn’t follow the news much...
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Aren’t those the voters who want ‘more civility’ from POTUS?
A ‘more presidential demeanor’?

Progs never trash their own unless it’s personal, as in one wants the position the other has. We, on the other hand, shoot ourselves in the foot all the time.

You and some of the others have a better grasp of the macro politics than I do and certainly more than the average independent or reflexive R voter. But those voters just want to feel they can ignore politics because everyone is ‘really friends’ behind the scenes.

OTOH, POTUS can overdo the ‘we’re really great friends’ schtick.


48 posted on 06/30/2020 6:12:15 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available)
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To: Zhang Fei

The point being that we are supposed to have moved into an era in which countries don’t acquire land by force

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I suppose we should be leaving one of the multitude of contries that we’ve conveniently dropped troops into over the last 50-70 years.


49 posted on 06/30/2020 6:14:17 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: rintintin

McConnell doesn’t have a say in it. For that matter Trump is only one voice out of seven so he doesn’t decide Russia’s admission either.


50 posted on 06/30/2020 6:16:11 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Lod881019
then again Vladimir knows this and he knows a Biden presidency pretty much allows him to do whatever he wants overseas

I don't see him being reined in as it is. Biden would just be more of the same so far as Putin is concerned.

51 posted on 06/30/2020 6:17:42 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Zhang Fei

We need to restart the Tea Party to force the GOP to grow a pair and stand up for America. We need to run real conservatives not the weak livered Vichy Republicans who will weep and fall to their knees if called racist. We need to run more people like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. We need real power brokers! Tucker Carlson is right. We need a revived GOP—BUT it must come from below. All I get from the GOP now is requests for money, money, money. We need BOLD leadership NOW in the face ofthe cabal of Leftist Media, Hollywwod and Democratic-Socialists. People who love Capitalism as much as Sanders Loves Communism.


52 posted on 06/30/2020 6:28:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

[We need to restart the Tea Party to force the GOP to grow a pair and stand up for America. We need to run real conservatives not the weak livered Vichy Republicans who will weep and fall to their knees if called racist. We need to run more people like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. We need real power brokers! Tucker Carlson is right. We need a revived GOP—BUT it must come from below. All I get from the GOP now is requests for money, money, money. We need BOLD leadership NOW in the face ofthe cabal of Leftist Media, Hollywwod and Democratic-Socialists. People who love Capitalism as much as Sanders Loves Communism.]


Posts like this are why Free Republic needs a thumbs-up button.


53 posted on 06/30/2020 6:35:08 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia will pull out of Crimea when the US pulls out of Texas.


54 posted on 06/30/2020 6:45:28 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: rintintin
The "G7" itself is a complete joke.

If sorted by Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), the top 7 are China, U.S., India, Japan, Russia, Germany and Indonesia.

By "nominal" GDP it's U.S., China, Japan, Germany, India, UK and France; with Italy and Brazil #8 and #9.

Canada is not in either list, and their inclusion in the G7 is absurd.

55 posted on 06/30/2020 7:01:15 PM PDT by montag813 (Nonsenze)
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To: married21
I don't think he sucks up to Putin at all, but rather seeks to make Putin, and thus Russia, more apt to side with the US if China ever decides to move in an attempt to secure dominance. Life is a game of chess.

Just as it was better that Russia finally joined the Allied forces to defeat the Axis forces, then to allow the opposite to occur. The same is still true to this day.

McConnell is the idiot.

56 posted on 06/30/2020 8:18:35 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Zhang Fei

Serbia may take issue with that claim. Remember what atrocities we committed against Serbia?

We stole Kosovo, which is historical Serbian land, and promptly built Camp Bondsteel. That action was damnable and unforgivable.

I have wondered if our current “balkanization” is our punishment for our crimes against Serbs.

Your attack against Russia and your dismissal of China’s crimes is troublesome. China is our most dangerous enemy.


57 posted on 07/01/2020 1:48:38 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (“Welcome Down to my Planet Hell”- Nightwish)
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To: Zhang Fei

The best rule to being successful is not to announce doing impossible things only to predictably fail at it.
Nothing would make Kim to disarm and nothing would bring Crimea back.


58 posted on 07/01/2020 8:09:35 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Zhang Fei

I have had my say on this issue for over 21 years here on FreeRepublic. I have added I think a lot to the discussion. Not as comprehensive perhaps as “TigerLikesRooster” , (another former FReeper), but I have had my say, more or less—with hard evidence and facts. There is no more arguing with people who either a) cannot see the realities of North Korea; b) follow a cult leader over a cliff, and hang their every position (shifting even) based on the position he adopts at the moment. There is no pursued and adhered to grand strategy here. No moral vision or guiding principles. Only reelection and looking good for the cameras (and the dictator knows this and skillfully milks it to the max). It can be proven seven ways to Sunday. But it will get you suspended or even banned on this forum, so that’s just the way things are.


59 posted on 07/01/2020 5:46:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

[There is no pursued and adhered to grand strategy here. No moral vision or guiding principles. Only reelection and looking good for the cameras (and the dictator knows this and skillfully milks it to the max). It can be proven seven ways to Sunday. But it will get you suspended or even banned on this forum, so that’s just the way things are.]


I’d disagree. Trump puts on this servile, eager-to-please, world’s greatest salesman act. But in reality, he’s installed THAAD in South Korea and beefed up freedom of navigation operations in the Far East. He’s improved relations with Taiwan and pushed through arms sales that were stalled under Obama, because Obama was, just like Carter, eager to hand Taiwan over to China. He’s withdrawn from arms control treaties with Russia that Russia has been flouting for many years. Under Trump, the frequency of B-52 flights that ensure the US retains the ability to vaporize Russia from strategic bombers has been upped. That’s a big shot in the arm for nuclear readiness. And the modernization of the nuclear force that has repeatedly been delayed finally got going under Trump.

My impression is that the glad-handing is who Trump is - his conceit is that he can win anyone over. And this conceit isn’t affected by actual results. However, he doesn’t let policy be set by atmospherics. Note that sanctions on Korea are probably the tightest they’ve ever been.

Bottom line - there’s a lot of stuff the media is slinging at Trump that just isn’t true. He’s yielding on a lot of stuff that gives America’s adversaries face, but not the substance of the sanctions against them. The G-8 meeting is just crap - his policies have got Russia’s economy in a vise that is getting tighter and tighter. He’s trying to play the Russia card vis-a-vis China, just as in previous decades, Nixon played the China card vis-a-vis Russia.


60 posted on 07/02/2020 4:47:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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