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NPR: “Mounting Evidence” Suggests COVID Not As Deadly as Thought. Did the Experts Fail Again?
NPR ^ | July 3, 2020 | NPR

Posted on 07/03/2020 7:47:19 AM PDT by teeman8r

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To: cuban leaf
Trump seems to be playing 4D chess with his understanding of timing. You have to ask yourself, with the death count plummeting in spite of the case count rising, and with events like the Memorial day at Lake in the Ozarks producing no more deaths, where will we be by election day?

We live in interesting times...

61 posted on 07/03/2020 8:49:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu.."TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH" -(imred)
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To: kosciusko51

They know the infection/mortality ratio is about to go so far out of whack that the arguments won’t be sustainable. Getting out ahead of the inevitable.

At least that makes them smarter than Fauci.


62 posted on 07/03/2020 8:57:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Owen

You’re correct and I thjink we all know why the death rate is not reported out as you say, broken down by age. To have done that as soon as it became obvious back in March would have made the nation wide shutdown impossible.


63 posted on 07/03/2020 8:58:25 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: zeestephen
The Case Fatality Rate depends completely on the total number of people who have been infected.

The CFR depends on the number of people that have been definitively diagnosed.

The Infection Fatality Rate depends on the number infected and can only be estimated.

64 posted on 07/03/2020 8:59:30 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Re: The number of Americans tested is probably less than 20 million.

Based on what data? The CDC does not track that.

There have been at least 6 studies done in the USA and Europe.

New York state (the whole state) tested out at 15%. New York City tested out at 25%.

Four cities or regions in Europe have tested at 11% to 15%.

My estimate of 10% is probably low.

USA antibody tests - which would include ALL the symptom free people infected in March and April and a couple weeks in May - are at least 3%.


65 posted on 07/03/2020 9:00:12 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Senormechanico
This is what all this mask wearing is leading to....


66 posted on 07/03/2020 9:02:53 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: teeman8r

NO they didn’t fail, this was all planned. Fauci known to have funnel tax payer dollars under the a##clowns watch to the very lab that created the virus, pushing his drug for the cure, associated with Gates and Soros, friend to bill and hillary, his predictions were wrong across the board, Do we really need to know anymore about this dwarf?


67 posted on 07/03/2020 9:05:30 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: semimojo

Re: “The CFR depends on the number of people that have been definitively diagnosed.”

Re: “The Infection Fatality Rate depends on the number infected and can only be estimated.”

The CDC website uses “Case Fatality Rate” for both known and unknown cases - they actually have several pages of epidemiology definitions, which I will hunt down for you when I have time.

Frankly, until total testing hits 10% of the population or higher, the “known” CFR is a completely useless number.


68 posted on 07/03/2020 9:18:46 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: teeman8r

The actual report was from May 28. Has there been an update?


69 posted on 07/03/2020 9:20:48 AM PDT by bethelgrad
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To: billyboy15

I don’t think there is an answer to how to deal with it. Old people represent most of the money. That’s what “lifetime savings” means.

If you quarantined only the old people, you would lose about 11% of money out of the economy. That’s less severe than total shutdown for 2 months, but the problem is it would be 11% out of an economy growing at only 3% and it would be nearly forever, or until a cure is invented.

The cruise industry would still be smashed. So would airlines. And instead of 2 months, it would be ongoing. Hell, it is anyway.

The total economy shutdown tried to save old people. It’s now in the process of failing.

There is no fix for this other than a cure. Not a vaccine. A cure.


70 posted on 07/03/2020 9:25:36 AM PDT by Owen
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To: GreenHornet
At some point, the leftist narrative will do a 180, with the talking point being: "Donald Trump never had a handle on the situation. He overreacted, shutting down the economy and putting millions out of work when it wasn't necessary."

That's what I think.

71 posted on 07/03/2020 9:32:16 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Father in Heaven, I trust in Your love.)
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To: Owen

You are assuming a lockdown of older folks is a jail sentence. It would have to be voluntary and it wouldn’t mean older folks couldn’t get out and shop as they were/are doing now.

The whole idea is that instead of shutting down ANYTHING at all all you would do is alert older folks and especially those with existing medical conditions to the dangers and suggest they take special care. Meanwhile the rest of the country carries on as it always has.


72 posted on 07/03/2020 9:42:31 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Sicon

I’d rather not pick up this CV or anything from flubros.


73 posted on 07/03/2020 9:50:19 AM PDT by bgill
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To: teeman8r

Bookmark


74 posted on 07/03/2020 9:54:44 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: teeman8r

Since it didn’t burn through the favelas of Brazil or the slums of Lagos or Mumbai, I would have to say NPR is a little high on their fatality rate, even at 0.5%.


75 posted on 07/03/2020 9:59:43 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: VanShuyten

I have to believe it’s because people in those poorer areas are exposed to so many things, their immune systems are made of steel.


76 posted on 07/03/2020 10:02:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: teeman8r
It's not a 'flaw' when it's an intentional 'flaw.'

Government is always generally inept, but it (and it's associated collectives and layers and tendrils) can also be specifically quite EPT, when it wants, at appearing to be inept.

It often craftily hides it's intentions and agenda behind its own inept nature, playing dumb.

I'm not necessarily saying Covid was planned, THAT may well have been ineptness ... but the 'inept' response, if you look at its results ... seem to me to have been quite ... ept ... if we allow that evil can be ept.

If I was a cheerleader for globalism and collectives and an end to individual freedom and specifically its implementation and nature in the US, I would give a hearty "Good job! Very Damaging and Effective!" to the response.

77 posted on 07/03/2020 10:02:46 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: billyboy15

At this point prestigious organizations like Johns Hopkins and Henry Ford Health System (hcq study) are starting to worry about their long term credibility.


78 posted on 07/03/2020 10:03:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: teeman8r

If you haven’t know this for about 2.5 months now ... you’ve been experiencing a lot of fear (and NOT doing very much research) for no reason (not including the immune-compromised)


79 posted on 07/03/2020 10:07:49 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: kosciusko51
Whoa, honest reporting from NPR?

I think they are gradually adjusting their 'expertise' to fit an undeniable reality. (like they do with polls when the election is a day away or just happened - you can only report that Trump's 97% sure to lose to HIllary for so long in 2016 before the train of reality pulls into the station and is no longer decoratable with fake polls and weasel language.)

In a couple months I'm pretty sure they'll be reporting that, wow, it's even lower than .5% ... it's .25% or lower.

Then whatever they finally report -> you have to cut off 40% for died-with PLUS intentional infections like nursing homes.

It's going to get to the point where 'it ain't even the flu, bro,' if you're not severely immune-compromised.

80 posted on 07/03/2020 10:14:36 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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