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1 posted on 07/11/2020 1:15:57 PM PDT by karpov
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Good to see the WSJ onboard.


2 posted on 07/11/2020 1:19:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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I believe a pardon still leaves him unable to get a government job working again in Trump’s administration.


3 posted on 07/11/2020 1:21:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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actually, if there is anything, anyone that
is more important to show the importance of
a military takeover, followed
by capitol Trials of seditious blackrobes
it is dirty Judge (”I am the King”) Emmet Sullivan
(and his kin).


4 posted on 07/11/2020 1:21:51 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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100% agree

Then appoint as FBI-DIR


5 posted on 07/11/2020 1:22:00 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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Pardon means “guilty”. No, let this play out and rub the deep states noses in it.

WSJ wants him to be guilty.


6 posted on 07/11/2020 1:22:32 PM PDT by datura
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A pardon would be the worst thing to do.

Let it play out and expose the corruption.

General Flynn can sue the pants off the government for prosecutorial misconduct.

If he is pardoned all that disappears.


9 posted on 07/11/2020 1:23:35 PM PDT by shelterguy
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A good strategy, being followed by Sidney Powell, is to keep putting out the exculpatory evidence that has been withheld.

It keeps showing the magnitude of the frame-up of General Flynn.

10 posted on 07/11/2020 1:25:48 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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THIS is stupid. Granting a pardon means he was guilty of something of which he is not. Granting a pardon means he had to have done something wrong to have been pardoned for.

NO! Pursue the dropped charges direction until Judge Sullivan capitulates, and then General Flynn will truly be free.


12 posted on 07/11/2020 1:28:07 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)
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Nope, this is dumb. General Michael Flynn is all but free of the Deep State.

A pardon cheats him of a full victory and legal opportunity to strike back.

Beyond fed up with people pushing a pardon. The Court of Appeals is likely to reject Judge Sullivan’s inept motion.

They could slap down Sullivan and this could end. To issue a pardon for General Flynn who is not asking for one is a double cross.


13 posted on 07/11/2020 1:30:07 PM PDT by romanesq (Flubro, from the people who brought you the stupidity of grifters & the letter Q)
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Can anyone tell me how long the DC Circuit has before they must make a decision on Sullivan’s request? I thought there was a 21 day deadline from the 3 panel decision (24 June 2020) to decide whether or not to hold an en banc hearing. That would make on or before July 15th for a decision. Can someone who understands these things tell me if that is correct? If not, when must they make a decision?


14 posted on 07/11/2020 1:31:23 PM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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NOPE ... get him CLEARED LEGALLY, not “Let Off”.


15 posted on 07/11/2020 1:33:14 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Remember: >>>>> o b a M A G A t e <<<<<)
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Investigate this Judge. His actions defy explainable behavior.

I don’t care if he has to be waterboarded to find out who his masters are.


16 posted on 07/11/2020 1:33:47 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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No, I think the case should be dismissed by the courts and the judge get a smackdown.

The pardon will always have a whiff of guilt where there shouldn’t be any. His justice needs to be his exoneration in court.

Flynn’s lawyer seems to have her ducks in a row.


17 posted on 07/11/2020 1:35:27 PM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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Then Sullivan will file an appeal saying that the pardon is irrelevant to his proceeding because he wants to jail him for lying to him, or contempt, or any other random thing he can think of.

I poop you not. Its Lawfare. Anything to delay.

Maybe Sydney Powell should ask for the discovery order against Eric Holder's law firm to be fulfilled. As long as we are waiting for the next proceeding date to roll by...

19 posted on 07/11/2020 1:37:55 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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No, a pardon is the wrong answer. By withdrawing the charges, the DoJ is admitting that Flynn is innocent. A pardon would be an admission by the president that Flynn was guilty.

This judge, and the courts, have to have their feet held to the fire and be forced to do the right thing.


21 posted on 07/11/2020 1:42:08 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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I would not trust the Wall Street Journal’s advice on this one.

Why should Trump ‘put a monkey on his back’ when it is obvious that Flynn will eventually be totally vindicated?

WSJ’s integrity is just slightly above the NYT’s.


22 posted on 07/11/2020 1:43:55 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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It is really time for the Circuit Court for the District of Columbia to:
1. Deny Judge Sullivan’s request for an en banc hearings and to inform him the clock is running on him complying with the writ of mandamus ordering Sullivan to drop the charges against General Flynn.
2. Remove Sullivan from the Flynn case with prejudice for failing to comply with the writ of mandamus.
3. Appoint a judge to the case who will comply with the writ of mandamus.
4. Force Sullivan to retire or face further sanctions for refusing to comply with the writ of mandamus.

A pardon by the president would be an admission that Flynn committed a crime. The criminal here is Judge Sullivan not General Flynn.


27 posted on 07/11/2020 2:21:47 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I miss Don Imus!)
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I believe Flynn’s case has to go through the entire legal process in order for him to sue those in gov who framed him. A pardon would imply his guilt.


30 posted on 07/11/2020 2:29:41 PM PDT by drypowder
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No. No pardon. He did not commit a crime. He should take no less than having the indictment dropped. He is too honourable to accept a pardon for a crime that was never happened.


32 posted on 07/11/2020 2:42:56 PM PDT by scottiemom (As a retired Texas public school teacher, I highly recommend private school.)
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Why would an innocent man whose case has been dismissed need a pardon? The court just needs to enter the dismissal, which is a ministerial task. If the Circuit Court won’t do it promptly, the Supreme Court will slap them down.

Sullivan’s goal is to drag this on past the election, and hope Trump loses. But at that point, Trump could issue the pardon. For our nation’s sake, we have to pray we don’t have to worry about that. In any event, there is no need for a pardon until we reach that point.

I think Trump should bring Flynn back to a White House position right now, on the grounds that the DOJ has ordered dismissal of his case and so he will never be convicted. Let the Court of Appeal say that the President’s Deputy National Security Advisor OR even better, his Intelligence Community Reorganization Czar, should continue to be subjected to this partisan game playing by corrupt judicial tyrants, let them do it to a guy who has access to all their phone records.


33 posted on 07/11/2020 2:51:26 PM PDT by Defiant (I hope the Russians trick me into voting for Trump again in 2020.)
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