Slaving is not a contest.
I never understood the slave defending or excusing or deflecting on Free Republic.
Owning, buying, and selling people as if they were cattle has never been a good thing. In fact, in almost all American’s eyes its a horrible thing. About the worst thing you could do to a person.
So, can we stop pointing the finger elsewhere. Accept that it was bad. And move on.
This article, and comments supporting it, sound like the arguments of children.
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NO Because liberals ONLY accuse white people are accused of having slaves— hardly anyone is aware THAT black folks owned slaves and were slave traders themselves- Fewer people still are unaware that white people were also slaves- and evidence is emerging that whites were likely slaves in larger numbers than blacks-
ONLY whites are being accused of owning and selling slaves and ONLY whites are ‘required’ to pay reparations- not blacks who owned slaves, not indians. not muslims etc- all of whom owned slaves
Hardly anyone knows that white slaves were much cheaper than black slaves, and were therefore killed and abused more- since it was so cheap to replace them
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Nobody said it was- but getting FACTS out to people who aren’t aware of our history is a good thing- not sure why you oppose it! Or do you think only black people can complain about racism and slavery?
Just like in a courtroom, it is important to know the whole truth, not just a sliver of it. Also the story barely touches on the entire creole issue that persists to this day. When it is time to air dirty laundry, it has to be done in the open.
No.
The facts, the history must be known, must become part of the public discussion.
There are way too many ignorant people in this country as a result of suggestions like yours.
Part of acknowledging the past evils of slavery, is acknowledging the entire scope of the issue.
This is one arrow in the quiver to knock down the reparation's b.s. talk, the whites are the only racists b.s. talk, and on and on.
I don’t think anyone is defending slavery.
As I read the posts they’re just saying no one’s history is clean. Which is obvious to anyone without a political agenda,
I never understood the slave defending or excusing or deflecting on Free Republic.
You are ignoring history.
It is a fact, and relevant, that American slavery was some of the most humane in that period of history.
It is a fact that most people who became slaves would have been killed if they were not made slaves, as they were captured in warfare.
The alternative, in the period being discussed, was not slavery v. no slavery. It was slavery where the slaves were treated well enough to reproduce, v. slavery where they were worked to death, as they tended to be in Brazil or under Muslim slavery, where black Africans left very few descendants. It was slavery or death for the people enslaved in the African tribal wars.
These facts are relevant to the discussion of the history of American slavery, because they put the "peculiar institution" in context.
The Left would have us believe slavery was created by Americans.
It wasn't. It was Americans who were part of the near elimination of slavery in the second half of the 19th century, though it is now staging a comeback in Islamic lands and in Africa.
I think you're missing the point. The point is that, contra the Commies--foreign and domestic--Western Civilization and Western white folks didn't invent slavery. In anthropological terms, slavery is a human universal. There's no culture that hasn't practiced it--or suffered from it. It's still practiced in Africa, parts of India, the Middle East, and covertly and illegally, in some households of Asian immigrants in the West. Not to mention that in China today, there are about 1 billion slaves--that is, everyone who isn't part of the ruling class.
Here's why all that matters. What Western Civ did that's unique is that it abolished slavery.
Slavery is the most universal and historically long lived institutional method of labor discipline. Slavery began to decline in the west as economies began shifting from agrarian staple production and merchant capitalism to manufacturing and finance capital. As long as the institution was vital to the economies of Great Britain and France it was not going to be disturbed. Less developed countries with colonial empires such as Spain and Portugal continued to have a vital interest in the health of slavery. The bottom line is those in the UK and the US that were most interested in spreading the peculiar institution became very righteous when they found they could make much more money from manufacturing and compound interest and commenced the anti-slavery crusade.
Its not.
The other side is trying to portray slavery as a whites-only creation, to go along with their incorrect and incredibly hypocritical theme that only whites can be racist.
further the other side isn’t ‘moving on’ and has no intention to as they plan to beat this as long as they can play the race card.
letting them simply lie and omit true history to furthwr their lying claims to get what they want is insane, and you ought to recognize that. Also that truth and accurate history is also important to defend and preserve.
i cannot believe you are this myopic on the subject to undersrand why the context of this is important.
If you are on social security, the government owns you. What's the difference?
As to your opinion about slavery, without it happening as it did in the United States of America, the black race would not now be seated at the table of the modern world with the rest of the races. In this sense, slavery in America is one day going to be appreciated for the opportunity it presented to the black race to be seen on equal footing with all of the other races. It placed them at the table with everyone else. Instead of bitching and moaning about how they got to that table, they'd be much better off taking advantage of the opportunity that seat provides.
Except that it happens to be historical FACT. I'm from south Louisiana and very familiar with the history of the state. It is all true. EVERY race has owned slaves. Only ONE race turned against slavery and worked to eradicate it. Guess which one.....................
The point I think is to contest the presumption that only white people can be racists. Slavery IS as is racism, stupid and petty.
Well, we could, but that would be stupid. The real point, the one you don’t seem to get, is that slavery was not about hate. White people in Europe didn’t go to Africa to enslave blacks because they hated them. Black Africans did not sell other blacks Africans because they were racist. Black Americans did not own slaves because they were racist. The point is, the morons today try to put slavery into today’s context, wrongly believing that it was about hate, and by extension, the Confederate monuments are tributes to hate. It wasn’t and they aren’t. It is obscenely stupid to believe such a thing. Pointing out that blacks owned blacks proves it. THAT’S why it is important.
I think you are misunderstanding the point. If just as many or more blacks OWNED slaves as whites, then why the reparations? Some of the blacks who descended from blacks who owned slaves would get reparations along with the real descendants of white slave owners, and whitey would pay the bill.
So, the point is that finding the TRUE slaves of white or black slave owners would be difficult. And, as the article also states, why no outrage over blacks owning slaves (black and/or white?) It’s basically the same as the black on black shootings and the abortion clinics being placed in higher numbers of black neighborhoods than in others.