How convenient...
Halon systems are fir main space fires. Not throughout the ship.....
More Convenience than a 24hr Walgreens....
Can someone explain to these goobers the difference between drywall and a tri-wall?
back in the old days, we fought our own fires in the Navy. when i read the statement from the San Deigo fire marshall my heart sank.
There are different types of Halon fire suppression systems and some of them are non-lethal. My first duty assignment was at the Intelligence Center Pacific (IPAC) at Camp Smith, Hawaii and they installed a system in the computer room below us and on our deck as well due to all of the specialized analysis equipment we had installed. They wanted to test the system and asked for volunteers which I did. Quite startling when it first goes off and it spewed forth a vapor cloud that smothers the fire vice removing the oxygen. Interesting side affect is that it had the opposite affect that helium has when inhaled and the female sailor down in the computer room during the test did not like the sound of her very deep baritone voice after the test.
Most firefighters these days - and one would think especially in the confined compartments of a ship - wear air tanks.
“Halon systems can kill fire fighters in the area [or others] as they remove all oxygen from the area they surpress. They have gone out of vogue for computer rooms due to the danger. “
totally ... surprised those things are still around ... decades ago they removed the one in the computer room where i worked as a systems analysis and network engineer ...
I got the following this morning from a friend who is retired senior enlisted Navy with ties to the vessel and crew. I think it’s pretty important. If an admin wants to post it separately and in the sidebar, please do. I’m a low-tech old geezer.
“...In case anyone is thinking about it-there is NO OFFICIAL gofundme account for the ship or crew. 100% scams. Relief will be coordinated locally through the Navy Marine Corps Relief Society and local commands. They have already collected a ton of clothing and toiletries for the crew that lost everything.”
https://action.nmcrs.org/page/contribute/uss-bonhomme-richard-disaster-fund-drive
I used to test-run jet engines - they permanently deactivated the Halon system and went with a water deluge system instead. Much less deadly.
True but can halon be used now; after all personnel are removed from the area?
Can high-power injection of halon be used to stop the fire?
Block off all openings except one to pump halon in and one for the halon to exit. Make sure the exit hole is small so halon builds up.
Or CO2 which would likely be cheaper.
I don’t know how many of my Shipmate Freepers here were Big Deck Sailors like myself, but Shipyard Overhaul and Drydock are complete nightmares.
I helped drydock the ex-Independence Cv-62 in 1994 in Japan and as a trained firefighter, I was always chasing down small fires from arcing and sparking fires and fuel fires. The issues with Bonnie’s Dick was the fact that allot of the metals that she is made of either melt under high temps or produce their own O2! Then there is the sounding materials, wiring, paint lockers and other flammable materials. Then there is the materials brought aboard by contractors that often block watertight doors and bunkers, which would normal be closed once a fire is called away.
From what I understand the fire started in one of the well decks and then went right up the ramp into the Hanger Bay and Island sections.
I pray that President Trump visits Bonnie’s Dick and commits to rebuilding her just like we did with the Forestall and Belknap, if possible because I fear that if this current crop of NAVY Bean Counters have their way, I will be shaving with her in 5 years or she will end up a target at the next RIMPAC Sink-EX.
For those who don’t know, she was in the yards for conversion to the Lighting Carrier Configuration after being replaced by the WASP as the Forward Deployed in Japan. Anything like that a complete rebuild would send the wrong message to the Chicoms that recent had massive fire on one of it rip off WASP-like Heli-Carriers in the yards.
No portable fire pumps?
Emergency cooling systems for reactor 4 at Chernobyl were off line when it blew up too.