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Ignore the Battleground Polls
American Thinker.com ^ | July 26, 2020 | Trevor Thomas

Posted on 07/26/2020 5:24:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

It seems that President Trump is trailing in the polls again. In other "shocking" news, it seems that only women menstruate; "green energy" is a massive scam; Trump-Russia collusion was a massive hoax; media leftists hate America; and on everything from masks to guns to lives that matter, liberals are hypocrites. Americans — especially Trump supporters — should pay little to no attention to the national polls on the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Such polls are usually not designed to inform us — as they should — but rather to form public opinion. This is true of the polls in the so-called "battleground" states as well. Twenty sixteen provides the valuable lesson here.

People define battleground states differently. For the purposes of this piece, I'll define a "battleground state" as a state that was won — by either Trump or Hillary — in 2016 by less than 5 percentage points. There were eleven such states in 2016. Six were won by President Trump (margin of victory in the parentheses): North Carolina (3.66%), Arizona (3.55%), Florida (1.20%), Wisconsin (0.77%), Pennsylvania (0.72%), and Michigan (0.23%). Five were won by Hillary: Colorado (4.91%), Maine (2.96%), Nevada (2.42%), Minnesota (1.52%), and New Hampshire (0.37%).

Going into the 2016 election, according to the Real Clear Politics (RCP) polling average, Hillary Clinton led Donald Trump in seven out of 11 battleground states (Hillary's RCP polling average lead in parentheses): WI (6.5%), PA (2.1%), MI (3.6%), CO (3.0%), ME (5.5%), MN (6.3%), and NH (0.3%). In other words, Donald Trump won three of the battleground states — WI, PA, and MI — where he (supposedly) trailed significantly in polls done just days prior to the election. Additionally, whether he won the state or not, Trump outperformed the RCP polling average in seven out of 11 battleground states.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020election; polls
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1 posted on 07/26/2020 5:24:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

With one exception...more democRats are energized to vote against Trump in 2020 than 2016.


2 posted on 07/26/2020 5:28:06 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: entropy12
With one exception...more democRats are energized to vote against Trump in 2020 than 2016.

I wonder though, with the continued chaos and rioting, maybe some of those 'Dems' may vote law and order?
One can hope
3 posted on 07/26/2020 5:32:11 AM PDT by Karma_Sherab
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To: Karma_Sherab

Rioting and looting is most certainly going to work against democrats. The president should not even try to stop those.

Most riots are in blue states which he won’t win anyway.
But if riots continue, it should suppress democrat voter energy in battleground states.


4 posted on 07/26/2020 5:38:03 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: entropy12

Of course, the Democrats candidate is senile, and the low information voters don’t know that yet since the mass media has hidden the guy in his basement.

Here is my anti-Biden ad to educate the low information voters.

Scene: Total darkness.

A confused elderly voice (that sounds like Biden) says:

“Dear, I think I forgot to close the electric garage door opener.

Where is that button.

Oh, here it is.”

(Scene shows button with flashing red light in room. “Biden” presses button.)

Sirens start blaring, the lights turn on, guys in suits and military units storm into the room.

“Sir, you just launched nuclear missiles.”

Voiceover: “We just can’t afford to have Joe Biden as our President.”


5 posted on 07/26/2020 5:38:39 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: Karma_Sherab

“With one exception...more democRats are energized to vote against Trump in 2020 than 2016”

That is just not true! All the polls, even the negative one have shown that the intensity level is through the roof for Trump voters, while support for Biteme is tepid at best! And will the violence this Summer I cannot see that it is going to shift toward the Dems!


6 posted on 07/26/2020 5:41:14 AM PDT by gbscott
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To: Kaslin
In the July-August polls reported by RCP, Hillary had a polling average lead in all but one (AZ) of the 11 battleground states. The numbers in parentheses are her average lead at the time: NC (2.2%), FL (1.9%), WI (6.8%), PA (6.1%), MI (6.9%), CO (8.6%), ME (only a single poll: 10%), NV (0.8%), MN (RCP reports only seven polls in 2016. The average Hillary lead: 7.0%.), and NH (9.3%). In the final 2016 election result, Trump outperformed every one of these polling averages except one (NV). He did so by an average of 6.2%.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/ignore_the_battleground_polls.html#ixzz6TIu50MsW
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7 posted on 07/26/2020 5:42:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Kaslin
Look at who comes to see them when the candidates are out-and-about. How many come to Biden's campaign events (or whatever)? To Trump's? What about their online events? One recent online event, I think the Phenix Ralley had over 7 million viewers. Biden had nineteen. That is a more valid poll.
8 posted on 07/26/2020 5:44:19 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: entropy12

It is said that a picture is worth a thousand words. Extrapolated, a video of cities being looted burned and pillaged is more valuable than a thousand polls

The videos are entropy


9 posted on 07/26/2020 5:45:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Kaslin

BG polls are background noise. Ignore them.


10 posted on 07/26/2020 5:47:21 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: entropy12

You got it the other way round.
The enthusiasm gap is over 25% in Trump’s favor. It’s hard to find anyone who is crazy about Slow Joe. Maybe the dead are enthusiastic about ole Joe.


11 posted on 07/26/2020 5:48:46 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Karma_Sherab; entropy12
Here are a few things on why we should discount polls but not discount the threat:

-these polls are drawn from about 1,000 people and are hardly representative of who will vote.

-the avg Trump supporter is suspicious of any unknown caller (e.g. Is it a doxxing Antifa dweeb?) asking "who ya gonna vote for?" And their hangup means an undersampling of Trump support, especially if your avg woke Dem is all about telling strangers about their worldview

-election results are a function of turnout and geography. Sure, in PA Trump will win the Red areas. But Philadelphia and her woke hyped up citizenry will turn out in droves (and maybe multiple times...).

It is not enough to simply hope the polls are BS and Trump folks will come out of the woodwork. The Dems are using these riots, erm, Biden Rallies to whip up loser enthusiasm. If we simply think this is a cakewalk, we are screwed.

12 posted on 07/26/2020 5:50:40 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Kaslin

The question is will the rioter looter protesters take a break from thier antics to vote in November? ha!


13 posted on 07/26/2020 5:53:36 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: entropy12

Except far more Rs are energized to vote for him


14 posted on 07/26/2020 5:55:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Kaslin

Also there’s the Durham/Barr/Graham investigation into the deep state coup. If there is no warrants for arrest of the perps by the end of September then the fix is in.


15 posted on 07/26/2020 6:01:38 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: HighSierra5

Are no warrants.


16 posted on 07/26/2020 6:02:09 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Kaslin

Were the battleground polls conducted by mail in canvasing?
That is the only way slow Joe will come out on top.


17 posted on 07/26/2020 6:05:25 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Kaslin

The campaign commercials should practically be writing themselves right now.

Where are they?


18 posted on 07/26/2020 6:09:30 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Kaslin

The only poll that matters in November 3rd. Ignore all others.


19 posted on 07/26/2020 6:14:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Magnatron

Patience patience.

The Democrat’s senile bottom b&^%$ does not even have the official nomination yet.


20 posted on 07/26/2020 6:22:57 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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