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To: rintintin

I would just say, that something which happens on a President’s “watch” is not necessarily his “fault”, if you will.

History is a bit more complicated, as you mention President Hoover and the Depression. It’s a stretch to say that the Depression was the fault of President Hoover.

Or what are you saying? Are you merely observing that some bad events happened when someone was president, or are you saying that such events should be blamed on said president for not having the foresight to prevent these events?


49 posted on 08/07/2020 8:43:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego; rintintin
"I would just say, that something which happens on a President’s “watch” is not necessarily his “fault”, if you will"

Completely agree with this statement.

I don't blame the bureaucratic (eg. intelligence, immigration, etc) systematic failures that lead to 911, 9 months into Bush's term, on Bush just as I also wouldn't blame the similar bureaucratic systematic failures of Wuhan-19 on Trump, 3 years into his term.

Now, Bush's policies on illegal immigration, out sourcing of American jobs, the disastrous Iraq war and "nation building", among others, are his fault.

74 posted on 08/07/2020 9:15:21 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Or what are you saying? Are you merely observing that some bad events happened when someone was president, or are you saying that such events should be blamed on said president for not having the foresight to prevent these events?

A little bit of both. I’ve read that Bush opposed profiling at checkin gates
I’ve also read the FBI didn’t follow up warnings about weird flight trading customers. I know that Bush had been president for 9 months by 911 - not enough time to be considered accountable for his government? I’m pretty sure Freepers were blaming Obama for stuff that happened 9 months into his term


77 posted on 08/07/2020 9:18:07 AM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; rxsid; rintintin

Dubya is personally responsible for ending the profiling of airline passangers.

His buddy Spencer Abraham was more concerned about the feelings of his fellow Arabs than he was airline security and Bush agreed with him.

The gate agent in Boston testified that he wanted to stop Mohamed Otta and have him checked but he couldn’t, because such profiling had become illegal.

Bush campaigned on the issue. The buck stops with him.

Otta is believed to have piloted the first plane that flew into the WTC.


107 posted on 08/07/2020 11:23:31 AM PDT by Pelham ( Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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