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Nate Silver releases election forecast: Looks very similar to 2016, too soon to count Trump out
FiveThirtyEight ^ | August 12, 2020 | Nate Silver

Posted on 08/12/2020 6:58:20 AM PDT by nwrep

Summary:

Joe Biden currently has a robust lead in polls. If the election were held today, he might even win in a landslide, carrying not only traditional swing states such as Florida and Pennsylvania but potentially adding new states such as Georgia and Texas to the Democratic coalition.

But the election is not being held today. While the polls have been stable so far this year, it’s still only August. The debates and the conventions have yet to occur. Biden only named his running mate yesterday. And the campaign is being conducted amidst a pandemic the likes of which the United States has not seen in more than 100 years, which is also causing an unprecedented and volatile economy.

Nor has it been that uncommon, historically, for polls to shift fairly radically from mid-August until Election Day. Furthermore, there are some reasons to think the election will tighten, and President Trump is likely to have an advantage in a close election because of the Electoral College.

That, in a nutshell, is why the FiveThirtyEight presidential election forecast, which we launched today, still has Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College, despite his current deficit in the polls. This is considerably higher than some other forecasts, which put Trump’s chances at around 10 percent. Biden’s chances are 71 percent in the FiveThirtyEight forecast, conversely.

If these numbers give you a sense of deja vu, it may be because they’re very similar to our final forecast in 2016 … when Trump also had a 29 percent chance of winning! (And Hillary Clinton had a 71 percent chance.)


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: california; clowncar; delaware; india; jamaica; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; kamalaharris; natesilver
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Note that this forecast is a statistical prediction, not a political prediction.
1 posted on 08/12/2020 6:58:20 AM PDT by nwrep
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Nate hedges his bets better this time, but is still a liberal hack.


2 posted on 08/12/2020 6:59:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: nwrep

“””Joe Biden currently has a robust lead in polls. If the election were held today, he might even win in a landslide,””

I’ll keep my record player turned on so I can listen to the news about this, man.


3 posted on 08/12/2020 7:01:34 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: nwrep

Your personal gold standard of polling. But then again, you actually believe in polling.


4 posted on 08/12/2020 7:01:46 AM PDT by datura
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To: datura

I do, especially this year. Thank you.


5 posted on 08/12/2020 7:04:16 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

The actual headline is “It’s Way too Soon to Count Trump Out.”

Nate may be liberal, and he may be gay, but I think he is still a very good statistician. He is analyzing polls that have a bias, and that he bakes into his narrative that Trump is starting statistically where he finished statistically in 2016, which is by no means dead, speaks volumes.

One can think the polls are bunk, but they are still the polls that actually exist, like them or not.


6 posted on 08/12/2020 7:04:30 AM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: nwrep

does that map show Biden winning Louisanna and Florida? ROFL

nope!


7 posted on 08/12/2020 7:05:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SoFloFreeper

The pollsters are making the exact same mistakes they made in 2016, and getting the exact same results.

That is the definition of stupidity—doing the same wrong thing over and over again, and expecting different results.


8 posted on 08/12/2020 7:05:38 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: nwrep

the squirrel gives me more confidence in Nate Silver.


9 posted on 08/12/2020 7:05:49 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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Nate is smoking way too much reefer or, maybe drinking too much booze. The POTUS/VP ticket of Democrats, Joe Biden & Kamala Harris is the joke of the century...period!!! Nate, ya better revise your goodies...you are dead wrong!!! Read my lips, Nate Silver...it is a Trump victory in a massive landslide!!! But, Nate if you hold to your prediction...welcome to the legions of Democrat Party, BUTT WIPES!!!


10 posted on 08/12/2020 7:06:49 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That is one of 40,000 simulations run through the statistical prediction model.


11 posted on 08/12/2020 7:08:54 AM PDT by nwrep
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I have more confidence in a rotting pile of manure predicting elections than I do Nate Silver. This is all a waste of time blathering about something that will not occur this year.


12 posted on 08/12/2020 7:09:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Hieronymus

“One can think the loss are bunk, but they are still the polls. . “

One can doubt that the moon is made of cheese.

But the media is still saying it so it is a notion.


13 posted on 08/12/2020 7:15:52 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: nwrep

Silver gave Trump a 1% chance of winning in 2016


14 posted on 08/12/2020 7:15:56 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: nwrep

The Lord of the Algorithms comes down with a very scientific, definite maybe.


15 posted on 08/12/2020 7:16:47 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: SoFloFreeper

Even Nate knows the Kamala selection stinks on ice.


16 posted on 08/12/2020 7:17:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: nwrep
On Election Day, nearly every public polling firm predicted that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency. The only real debate was by how large a margin. Even leading statistical analysis site FiveThirtyEight.com gave Donald Trump a less than 1 in 3 chance of winning. So when he surged to victory with 306 Electoral College votes, stunned political pundits blamed pollsters and forecasters, proclaiming “the death of data. -- Harvard Review
17 posted on 08/12/2020 7:18:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Black Lives Matter" becomes "Terse TV Blackmail"..... #AnagramsNeverLie)
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To: circlecity

On election night Nate’s percentage chance of HRC winning dropped by 20% per hour.


18 posted on 08/12/2020 7:19:41 AM PDT by AU72
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To: nwrep

Biden favored to win FL and LA? I dont think so.


19 posted on 08/12/2020 7:20:24 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Biden wins LA and FL?? No fkn way.


20 posted on 08/12/2020 7:21:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (It's over. Split the country... it can and should be done.)
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