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Nate Silver releases election forecast: Looks very similar to 2016, too soon to count Trump out
FiveThirtyEight ^ | August 12, 2020 | Nate Silver

Posted on 08/12/2020 6:58:20 AM PDT by nwrep

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To: nwrep

If your data/statistics are $h!t, which they are in this case, then your predictions will be $h!t too.


21 posted on 08/12/2020 7:21:33 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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22 posted on 08/12/2020 7:23:48 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: circlecity

Easily, provably wrong.


23 posted on 08/12/2020 7:24:18 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: ScottinVA; KC_Conspirator

Those are random results from 40,000 simulations fed into the statistical model. Thank you.


24 posted on 08/12/2020 7:25:23 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

He’s just factoring in the rampant fraud the Dims are allowed.


25 posted on 08/12/2020 7:26:08 AM PDT by Ingtar
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26 posted on 08/12/2020 7:28:16 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: nwrep
If these numbers give you a sense of deja vu, it may be because they’re very similar to our final forecast in 2016 … when Trump also had a 29 percent chance of winning! (And Hillary Clinton had a 71 percent chance.)

The dude actually brags about how far off he was with his FINAL prediction in 2016. Then expects us to take his latest load of manure seriously.

27 posted on 08/12/2020 7:30:01 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: nwrep

In 2016, I was getting polled AT LEAST once a week,often more.

This year: ZERO NADA NOTHING CRICKETS


28 posted on 08/12/2020 7:30:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: nwrep

What a joke! Trump is going to win in a landslide.


29 posted on 08/12/2020 7:34:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Biden taking FL and LA?........Not gonna happen...............


30 posted on 08/12/2020 7:35:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: nwrep

GIGO.....................


31 posted on 08/12/2020 7:36:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: nwrep

If I read the meat of his article correctly, this is what he is really saying:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/AZbgl


32 posted on 08/12/2020 7:36:45 AM PDT by Ingtar
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I give this buffoon a 1% chance of being right. He is favorable to the left always. He was touted over 2012 because Romney stunk. He gave Hillary 99% in 2016 and fell flat on his face.


33 posted on 08/12/2020 7:36:54 AM PDT by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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He gave Hillary 99% in 2016

An easily, provably and demonstrably wrong statement. Thank you.

34 posted on 08/12/2020 7:38:39 AM PDT by nwrep
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I guess to today I'm the word Nazi. Lets quibble!

I don't know if its possible to have statistical prediction in the strictest sense- statistics is used for events that have happened, explaining the results - Nate is making a prediction - where one has expected results, for that we use probability.

Statistics tries to explain what happened from the data, Probability tries to predict the future results (expected values) from future trials (voting) from the current data.

I would think statistical analysis would lead to making forecasts based on that data and then applying probablity to that data ... maybe .. I could be full of hot air but one time I was confused about the difference between the two and looked it up this is what I remember.

35 posted on 08/12/2020 7:41:30 AM PDT by datricker (the war of 2024 will be fought at 2.4Ghz stock up on aluminium foil now!)
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A statistical prediction that shows Biden carrying Louisiana? The recent re election of Dem Gov Williams is the sort of chicken excrement these people lose. Williams had a truly awful opponent who looked and sounded like human weasel. A few weeks before election day he was down over twenty points. Donald Trump came to small potatoes Louisiana and roused the base. Risponi ended up losing by three points. What does that say about Trumps pull. Silver is just plain lazy and ignorant in a number of his calculations.
36 posted on 08/12/2020 7:42:39 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nate Silver did a pretty good job forecasting actually in 2016 based on the available polls. It was Nate Cohn at NYT and the idiots at HuffPost, etc that all had 90-99% chance of HRC Winning. Silver actually had trump with a 35% chance a week out and a 29% on election day.


37 posted on 08/12/2020 7:42:39 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: robowombat

There are also simulations showing Trump winning Oregon and Nevada and Minnesota.


38 posted on 08/12/2020 7:47:12 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: SamAdams76

Silver wasn’t wrong. He isn’t actually predicting who will win; he’s modeling who is more likely to win based on currently available polling data. Based on that data in 2016, Clinton was more likely to win.

By analogy, if you flip a coin twice, I can confidently predict that you most likely will not flip heads both times. I can even put a number to my level of confidence, namely 75%. There is only a 1 in 4 chance that if you actually do flip a coin twice, you’ll get heads twice. Now if you do the experiment and actually do get two heads, does it mean I was wrong? No, obviously not.

Additionally I base my coin prediction on the assumption that the coin is equally likely to land on either side. If that’s not true, my prediction is altered. Similarly Silver’s probability is based on the assumption of unbiased and reliable poll data. If it’s not, then his probability will be off as well.


39 posted on 08/12/2020 7:51:02 AM PDT by stremba
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To: rb22982

The only change from the actual 2016 is Dim cheating gets them MI, PA, and maybe WI back. It is a near mirror of his Nov 8, 2016 prediction except he gives Trump a better chance in Florida and North Carolina. His GA and LA stuff is in the fluff of the article, but not in the statistical portion.


40 posted on 08/12/2020 7:53:39 AM PDT by Ingtar
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