I’m guessing you are not representing Hansen correctly.
Here are clickable links.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Au1MCA02bmnJL0F438lcN?si=ZR2-EzqPTh2nybWvOhTgQA
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Au1MCA02bmnJL0F438lcN?si=ZR2-EzqPTh2nybWvOhTgQA
I certainly hope I am. He has been talking about the racial gulf that widened with Obama.
I listened to the podcast via your URLs. Thanks. And you are correct that the other commenter misrepresented what VDH said. VDH said that SOME blacks are racists. He, in no way, said or implied that all or even a majority of Blacks, are racists.