Posted on 08/18/2020 6:09:27 PM PDT by Sioux-san
Scary, he’s still in somehow.
Your comments please.
Thanks
Dave
Is that the PAX?
I see Reavers.
Peter Doshi flu vaccine study – misused by anti-vaxxers
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-deniers-abuse-appeal-authority/
First comment is that it’s quite a lot of words and pretty wild claims being made. Many conclusions reached, probably before a word was written. But here goes...
The first claim is regarding Dr. Peter Doshi’s opinion pieces. “Opinion pieces?” Yeah, turns out that’s what they are. He’s not a virologist of epidemiologist with some insider knowledge or original research, he’s an anthropologist (social “scientist”) who wrote some opinion pieces. Turns out, he’s been churning them out on the regular since he was a graduate student in 2005. But rather than only attacking the source as not particularly well positioned to speak on the topic, it’s worthwhile to examine what’s actually stated as well. Forbes already did all the leg work for this one and broke down every claim and absolutely eviscerated it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2014/11/03/shocking-report-on-flu-vaccine-is-neither-shocking-nor-correct/#29511b9e78a7
Claim 2 is either a misrepresentation of facts or just an honest misunderstanding of facts. Which only depends on the intent of the author (i.e. did they KNOW what they were writing was garbage? It’s unclear.)
First, the seasonal flu vaccine is 40-60% effective; NOT “10%”. (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm) Second, yes, it’s not fully effective because of mutation, but that has nothing to do with chicken eggs specifically. It has everything to do with the fact that Influenza has a highly unstable genome. It’s why there are multiple major and minor strains of it (e.g. H1N1, H2N2, H3N1, H5N1, etc.). It takes months to “grow” (culture) generation 1 and gen 2 vaccines so the vaccine makers have to guess what’s going to be active several months from now when they’re making the vaccine. In the meantime, Influenza has often mutated or another strain has become more active in human populations. Generation 3 vaccines (such as Moderna’s SARS-CoV-2 vaccine candidate) hold the promise of being much faster and cheaper to produce because there’s nothing to culture. This in turn means we could produce cheaper, more effective flu vaccines and save tens of thousands of lives in the US each year. We currently lose about 37,000 Americans to seasonal flu on average.
Claim 3 is still a bunch of hyped up nonsense (e.g. “another shocking Peter Doshi report” ... “created tremors through the halls of the Centers for Disease Control”). The anthropologist apparently misunderstands the difference between underlying cause of death (UCOD) and immediate cause of death. Beyond that, he seems to simply make up the testing numbers. Tests for Influenza are either PCR tests or viral culture tests. Here’s a whole article on testing which demonstrates that many thousands of tests for flu come back positive each year (not “18”): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6038762/
Claim 4 is misunderstanding a change in CDC reporting. Their FAQ on it is here: https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/reportingqa.htm
Claim 5 is about a Dengue Fever vaccine that was given in the Philippines. First, I have no idea what safety controls the Philippines has, but I’ll bet they don’t match up to ours. Second, Dengue Fever vaccines aren’t even given in the US; though they are in a few US territories. No reports of any issues there. So we’re back to “what is the Philippines doing wrong that the rest of the world isn’t having this problem?”
But I’m bored now.
Wasn’t even a study; it was an opinion piece penned by an anthropologist who’s been trying to discredit vaccines since graduate school in 2005.
Anti-vaxxers found themselves a “social scientist” to feed their anti-vax fantasies all wrapped up in a neat little package complete with a “Dr.” in front of his name to make it look like he should have a shred of credibility on the topic.
bkmk
The psychopaths in government lie. Who knew?
JoMa
Thanks, my Friend!
Don’t fall too far into this rabbit hole, you will find that germs and virus causing illness is no more than a theory. Virus is just the excrement of a sick body. Of course it can make a healthy person sick if introduced in a “live form”. Of course, a virus is not alive at all.
Probably any number of the thousands of viruses that surround us could cause flu symptoms. They help fine-tune our immune systems.
My Dad was with the Army Corps of Engineers during WW2. Spent most his four years in the Philippines, Okinawa, and then into Japan after the Big Bombs were dropped. Not sure if he was in Nagasaki or Hiroshima and he is dead now so can’t ask. He told me that they were walking all around the area, no protective gear at all. Many years later, attempts were made by the Govt. to reach out to veterans who were there to see how they were doing. Don’t know if this was the DOD or VA, or if it was just written up in the VFW magazine. DAd wanted nothing to do with them as it was all too little way too late. He had a lot of health problems but made it to 79 years old.
From what I have been reading lately, considering that these two cities were completely rebuilt and life goes on in a thriving manner, it sure gives me pause as to other govt. lies about nuclear winter, 1/2 life of radiation blah blah blah, that no one should be able to do anything in this area for hundreds of years if ever.
You ask a good question and this has been covered in other posts by Rappoport. I am going to do a separate post that addresses the broader question that you raise.
Keep searching for that right Snopes-like debunker - this isn’t worth my time.
Facts are Facts. The CDC makes billions off of their lies about mortality and the salvation vaccines designed to protect us from the latest cootie. They can do whatever they want with their Big Pharma partners. Fauci, et.al., are having a hoot of a time watching all this mayhem and chaos they created out of nothing new under the sun.
Gee, why would anybody want to be an Anti-Vaxxer? OUr babies and children are jabbed more than any other kids in the world. It starts before the baby even leaves the hospital with a Hepatitis B jab. For those who think this is good health practice, I can’t help you. Here is the link to the full recommended schedule. Is the child’s health improved by all these jabs? Proof, please. Scientific proof from someone whose paycheck doesn’t rely on a Merck, GSK, etc, grant.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
it sure gives me pause as to other govt. lies about nuclear winter, 1/2 life of radiation blah blah blah, that no one should be able to do anything in this area for hundreds of years if ever.
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I went aboard a ship in 1957 that in 1946 had participated in the ABlasts and another in 1960 that had participated in the 1954 A&H tests, relocating Islanders etc...
Hard to believe (according to the Govt ‘standards’) that those ships were completely clean of ‘nuclear waste’ and also had asbestos to contend with....
A little ‘off track’ but....
I like to point out the differences between Japan and the Nuclear Drops and modern day most any D led ‘inner city’ and ask the question..
Which is worse have an ABomb dropped on you with all the trimmings OR years of LIBERAL leadership.
Before and after pictures are self explanatory.
As to todays ‘dilemma’ since I didn’t hunker down and isolate myself AS RECOMMENDED then ‘ordered’, according to them, I should be DEAD.... No mask for me....<: <: <: (I do have a legitimate medical issue)
Excellent point on the recoveries of Nagasaki and Hiroshima compared with D-run cities.
Good on you for keeping that oxygen flowing the way it should - Breathe Free or Die!!!
I think a lot of our ‘problems’ would be solved if PDJT were to sign an EO ORDERING all to inhale and exhale every few seconds and if that doesn’t work fast enough, he should BAN ALL SUICIDES.
The LIBs will fall over themselves just to ‘prove he can’t tell them what to do’.
His move with Susan B Anthony was brilliant -Say on Mon that he is planning on pardoning someone on Tues..
more than likely had all the talking heads getting complaints ready for whomever he may have decided on pardoning, thereby taking the 3 or 4 people away from watching the D ??? Whatever they are calling it.
Lucy has been pulling the football away from Charley Brown for years and PDJT has outmastered her when it comes to ‘sucking in the Libs’....
I am the Father of 5, grandfather of 13. The smartest grandchild is also the one that the parents did not allow ANY vaccinations. No vitamin K at birth, NOTHING. She is the brightest little being. She goes to bed when told and she is only 14 months old. My other grandchildren are very smart, but this one is not moody at all unless she is tired. 2 naps a day, and a full night of sleeping for around 6 months. Of course she also only eats organic chicken, avocado, fruits and vegetables. No baby food, and an occasional bit of beef and minimum dairy. Might just be this child, but I had to put my 2 Cents in.
Praise the Lord! You made my day - Thanks for sharing about your young granddaughter and her good fortune to have such thoughtful parents.
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