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Report: Up to 90% of confirmed COVID-19 cases might not be contagious
Just the News ^ | Updated: September 1, 2020 - 1:52pm | By Daniel Payne

Posted on 09/01/2020 12:28:23 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Nearly 90 % of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the United States could be clinically insignificant and non-contagious, according to a recent newspaper analysis of laboratory data, raising the possibility that the widespread coronavirus mitigation measures put in place over the last several months may have been based in part on overstated viral test results.

Public health experts throughout the U.S. are raising concerns that "standard [COVID-19] tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus," the New York Times reported on Saturday. A significant majority of the individuals who test positive "are not likely to be contagious," the paper says.

At issue is the type of test often used to detect the novel coronavirus, one known as polymerase chain reaction or PCR. That type of test amplifies the viral genetic material in a sample, allowing testing machines to detect its presence.

The number of amplification cycles needed to detect the virus is directly correlated to a patient's viral load: The more cycles needed to get a positive result, the smaller the viral load in the patient.

The Times reviewed "three sets of testing data" from New York, Massachusetts and Nevada. The paper found that "up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus."

Citing a recent 24-hour U.S. tally of over 45,000 positive coronavirus cases, the paper said that "if the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing."

One virologist told the paper that it was "mind-blowing" that coronavirus tests are generally "just returning a positive or a negative" rather than detailing the actual viral load of the patient's sample.

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1 posted on 09/01/2020 12:28:23 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

who we gonna sue...


2 posted on 09/01/2020 12:31:56 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Hojczyk

So what are the masks all about then?


3 posted on 09/01/2020 12:33:17 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Hojczyk

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So we shut down the entire country and lost $trillions of dollars for nothing?

Boy are our faces red...


4 posted on 09/01/2020 12:33:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: teeman8r
who we gonna sue...

Anthony Fauci. Sue is ass into the ground. As a rank-and-file bureaucrat I'm sure he does not enjoy the sort of immunity from lawsuits that elected officials do.


5 posted on 09/01/2020 12:34:16 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Hojczyk

This was in the New York Times...must be the virus is going to die out

There was a guy how said it would die out by the end of August...

It was posted here somewhere


6 posted on 09/01/2020 12:34:25 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

bttt


7 posted on 09/01/2020 12:36:11 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it] today.[)
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To: Hojczyk

RE: Report: Up to 90% of confirmed COVID-19 cases might not be contagious

So, why do we have 6 million cases in the USA as per WorldOMeter ? :

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


8 posted on 09/01/2020 12:38:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Hojczyk

I live in a Town of 45,000. 2 cases in our Town since this began and those are long gone.


9 posted on 09/01/2020 12:42:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Hojczyk

I’m getting tested on Saturday for a procedure I need done next week. It will be interesting to see the results. I wouldn’t be surprise if I tested positive, although I have no symptoms and haven’t had any. I am regularly around maskless people who do terrible things like shake hands, hug, and even kiss. I know those people are also around lots of other people too. Then there is my daughter who is a social butterfly. She doesn’t hang with a crowd that social distances. She lives with me, so I’m sure I pick up everything she brings home. Am I worried? Not one bit. I just don’t want any needless interruptions in my life.


10 posted on 09/01/2020 12:43:12 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
So what are the masks all about then?

Not a virus. Using a mask to stop a virus is like using a chain link fence to stop mosquitoes.

11 posted on 09/01/2020 12:43:25 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The only thing goverment does efficiently is waste taxpayer money.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, why do we have 6 million cases in the USA as per WorldOMeter ? :

Because some of the (few) contagious cases can be very contagious. See super-spreading events in the church choir practice or the German meat packing plant (where they wore cheezy masks like we do).

12 posted on 09/01/2020 12:51:44 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: SeekAndFind

Statistics are like bikinis.
What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.


13 posted on 09/01/2020 12:51:46 PM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: Hojczyk

I posted a prediction like that. But that was before FLOYD-19 began. The riots caused a bump. I haven’t looked at the charts lately, but most likely COVID-19 will be gone by Election Day.,

In most of Europe, COVID-19 is basically gone now. Very few are dying.


14 posted on 09/01/2020 12:54:30 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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Can’t a single particle of virus in someone multiply?

That single virus would compete with a body’s defenses, which might be able to kill it or kill a growing number of virus particles as they reproduce.

When growth reached a certain point the person would show symptoms.

Don’t you love terms like “relatively significant”.

Don’t you have the highest respect for a “newspaper analysis of laboratory data”.

But after all’s said and done, it appears the seriousness of COVID and its contageousness has been overstated.


15 posted on 09/01/2020 12:55:01 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: rllngrk33
Using a mask to stop a virus is like using a chain link fence to stop mosquitoes.

Maybe like a cloth mask. But N-95 will stop most coronaviruses if properly fited. But those masks will also create more aerosols by exhalation by an infected person through the valve. Cloth masks might do that too, breaking larger droplets into smaller droplets.

In between there are surgical masks which will stop some droplets both inhaled and exhaled. Might be better than nothing, not enough data to really know.

16 posted on 09/01/2020 12:55:12 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: cymbeline
"Can’t a single particle of virus in someone multiply?

That single virus would compete with a body’s defenses,"

A single virus has over 1000 to 1 odds against it. It's the viral load that matters.

17 posted on 09/01/2020 12:56:38 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Anthony Fauci’s whole game is to keep it from dying until he can cash in on his vaccine stocks.


18 posted on 09/01/2020 12:58:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: palmer
Not enough data to really know.

But we will force everyone to wear them anyways.

19 posted on 09/01/2020 12:59:44 PM PDT by Petrosius
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“A single virus has over 1000 to 1 odds against it. It’s the viral load that matters. “

I’ll go with that. What we need to know is how much of a viral load makes it probable that a person can spread the virus. People would argue over what constituted “probable”.

Vagueness about COVID is everywhere. I haven’t reached firm conclusion about anything except maybe the danger has been exaggerated by throwing in people with “comorbidities”.

I also think COVID fear is being exploited to hurt Trump.


20 posted on 09/01/2020 1:10:57 PM PDT by cymbeline
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