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To: bitt

Kurt, as a former undercover operative in the 60’s (for the FBI and Congress) and then a street reporter covering demonstrations in DC for over 20 years, I’ve got to disagree with you on a number of issues.

Forget logistics. As long as you have helicopters, trucks, trains and airfields (Air National Guard, USAF, etc), you can supply any troops you’ve got.

You cannot forgot the rioters in the streets because it is more of a psychological warfare issue than just who controls the streets (and media).

My mentors in Psychological Warfare/Political Warfare were the late Ed Hunter (Brainwashing in Red China, etc.), Dr. Stephen Chow (OSS/CIA developer of the “Political Psychology” concept re how countries behave), former FBI undercover agent Herb “I Led Three Lives” Philbrick, Govt security expert and ex-Communist Herb Romerstein, Phil Luce, ex maoist leader of the Progressive Labor Movement/Party, David Horowitz, ex-red, and the reports/testimonies of other undercover operatives on what they saw inside “the movement” including the Weathermen.

That said, I was informed of a great street tactic during the war in Cambodia when a pro-Sihanouk mob killed two members of Parliament came to Chompong Cham to explain why Sihanouk was ousted. They were beaten to death in the streets (similar to what has happened to our police, National Guard and civilians by Antifa and BLM hit teams and mobs).

I asked Gen/Gov. In Tam what he did in response to the killings. He said, “I ordered my troops to shoot and they killed about a dozen rioters. After that we had not trouble”.

Works for me, if you do it right.

Snipers to take out LaserPointer attackers, as well as well documents (by film/photos and possession) of tools of arson/bombs/deadly things they are about to throw, firework bombs, etc. My son was a sharpshooter in Iraq. He could hit a target with an M249 at 1,000 yards, and did take out some terrorists. My son-in-law did the same in Kosovo and Desert Storm.

Film all of these attacks as evidence for any kind of hearing.

If a mob charges the police/soldiers, shoot them, in the legs if necessary, but thru their umbrellas when they protect armed attackers behind them (my “shoot the first three rows of attacks” rule).

There are a lot of non-lethal weapons in crowd control inventories including beanbag guns, rock salt, Skunk smell oil, Nausea (aka shit) gas, Bear spray, fire-hoses on full blast, shotgun fired nets, barbed wire fencing around an area (we had a similar jeep-delivered system in WW2 - I saw the films of it), old fashions “thumpers” (police batons aimed at arms and legs, not the head), paint sprayers to cover face masks, etc.

I’m Old School. Still have a DC policeman’s pepper gas shell in my chest of drawers, as a reminder.

You’ve got to take out the “LEADERS” and “SHOOTERS” immediately as well as their protectors.

Using “Snatch and Grab teams” is good if they are well trained and have on-the-ground backup support to suppress those trying to free the snatched.

Also, boxing in small crowds by the barb-wired fencing tactic of cutting off escape routes (streets, alleys, etc), getting photos of the mob, id cards, license plates, etc). will crush the spirits of even the most hardcore except the psychopaths.

Invoked the Insurrection Act saying that local governments are out of control and the constitutional rights of peaceful citizens and businesses are threatened with destruction and bodily harm/death.

Arrest any governor or mayor who interferes and nationalize the state National Guard if necessary, if not done already, BUT DO IT ALL AT ONCE. Don’t left the Dems and their street stormtroopers get organized and in control of the streets, highways, bridges, etc.

Put violators in jail and let the courts sort them out (if the courts and local DAs, prosecutors aren’t leftist shits) unless you charge the riotes with federal charges. Then its a whole new game. House suspects in federal military brigs, etc. Isolate them as much as you can and for as long as you can. Slow roll their court appearances. Spending time in jail is not what most of these snowflakes want.

Then notify their parents that they have been arrested on federal laws for violence, attempted murder of law enforcement officials, etc. If the parents are worth anything, they will have shit-fits, which is good. Let them put up the bail and suffer whatever else comes down the pike re the criminal behavior of their kids.

Never let the enemy take the initiative if possible. Never let them control the battlefield, the time of engagement, and what is done there (as in unopposed attacks).

I will bet that every undercover operative and many police officers I know or knew would agree with my tactics.

We must control the TIME, PLACE, TACTICS, and Rules of Engagement, not the enemy.

Just a few thoughts from an old undercover guy and street reporter.


17 posted on 09/02/2020 11:03:48 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Great stuff there!


22 posted on 09/02/2020 11:13:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

We can dream.

I suspect that if it were not an election year, then things would be playing out differently..


31 posted on 09/03/2020 12:59:41 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Sir, I like the way you think.

I hope the Feds and LEO have been collecting and organizing all the cell calls, texts, electronic communications,and pics sent among the crowds. Also, categorizing and tracking the vehicles that appear during the riots. After IDing the players, track how the money is moving. Then after a pattern emerges, simultaneous 3:00 AM SWAT raids on all the leadership, handlers, and financiers - seize everything (files, phones, computers, etc). Cut the head off the damn snake with one stroke.

I’m just a civvy with no experience in intel or law enforcement. But it sounds like the correct path to me.

Thank you for your information and ideas!!! Gems!


35 posted on 09/03/2020 1:16:36 AM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Excellent information!


40 posted on 09/03/2020 2:04:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Good plan; hope DJT wins in Nov and can implement such


44 posted on 09/03/2020 2:47:56 AM PDT by PIF (`)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

that would surely work, but why do it?
people need to learn that you get what you ask for, or in ohter words, you get the government you elect.

The people living in these cities elected communists, who in turn appointed communist police chiefs.

The leaders did not do this, the people that elected them did this to themselves.

everything in life comes with a price tag. Utopia has a price too. Now that they have to pay the price they have temper tantrums like little 5 year old children.

They have tried to take this on the road, and everywhere the commies are not in control, they got their little pee pees smacked.

Note that there has been very little of this crap coming from Detroit. Detroit learned its lesson, and will have nothing to do with this nonsense. But, there always has to be a Detroit.

Seattle, portland, new york are going to be the new detroit’s.

let them burn...


60 posted on 09/03/2020 6:15:27 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

MAGA!


64 posted on 09/03/2020 8:02:08 AM PDT by bitt (Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Me likey.


66 posted on 09/03/2020 8:54:54 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Excellent comments, thank you.

Why do you think Trump and his people have not done this yet? Tensions are really building and IMHO holding off may be losing him some support.


67 posted on 09/03/2020 9:27:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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