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Officer charged in shooting death of Black man in a Walmart
Associated Press via San Francisco Chronicle / sfgate.com ^ | Sep. 2, 2020 Updated: Sep. 2, 2020 10:12 p.m. | OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ

Posted on 09/04/2020 6:46:59 PM PDT by thecodont

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To: Dark Knight

everyone should see “The Trayvon Hoax”, and especially take note of Crump and Matt Gutman of ABC.
it’s truly shocking no MSM has even mentioned it. Gilbert did tell Michelle Malkin in a podcast that he was booked 3 times by Fox News, but cancelled.
meanwhile, Murdoch’s Harper Collins has published Crump’s book! what!

VIDEO: The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America
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In this stunning work of investigative journalism, filmmaker Joel Gilbert uncovers the true story of the shooting of Trayvon Martin, a case that divided America. By examining Trayvon’s 750-page phone records, Gilbert discovers that Rachel Jeantel, the key witness whose testimony led to the prosecution of George Zimmerman, was a fraud. Gilbert’s research takes him to the high schools of Miami Gardens, into the back alleys of Little Haiti, and finally to Florida State University where he finds Trayvon’s real girlfriend, Diamond Eugene, the girl who actually was on the phone with Trayvon in his final minutes. Gilbert confirms his revelations with forensic handwriting analysis and DNA testing. He then exposes in detail the most consequential hoax in recent judicial history and reveals how The Trayvon Hoax was ground zero for the downward spiral of race relations in America. This incredible film and book have the potential to bring America back together again.
What did they know:
Benjamin Crump, Martin family attorney
Matt Gutman, ABC News ETC
https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

21 Aug 2020: American Spectator: The Trayvon Hoax: Are Young Blacks Weary of Being ‘Played’?
Some revealing reactions to Joel Gilbert’s new film.
by Jack Cashill
The attorney who orchestrated this fraud, Gilbert makes clear, was none other than Benjamin Crump, the ringmaster of the George Floyd show and the subject of an upcoming Netflix documentary. If enough young black viewers watch Gilbert’s film and speak out, the Crump film will never air...
https://spectator.org/the-trayvon-hoax-comments-zimmerman/

12 Aug 2020: American Spectator: Zimmerman Suit Spells Trouble for Black Lives Matter
They have a dismal record of blowing up “racial killings” that turn out to be nothing of the kind.
by Jack Cashill
I read the “Second Amended Complaint and Demand for Jury Trial” filed August 12 on behalf of George Zimmerman against Sybrina Fulton, Benjamin Crump, et al. without illusion. The major media will shrug off the suit, and even the trial if it comes to that, and Black Lives Matter (BLM) will likely continue on its meretricious way.
But maybe not...

Benjamin Crump, the seeming heir to Al Sharpton’s perverse race riot fiefdom, confirmed the validity of social philosopher Eric Hoffer’s observation, “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” Zimmerman’s lawsuit has the potential to show just what a racket the “civil rights” movement has become...

With impressive clarity, the Zimmerman lawsuit lays out the case against the defendants — Trayvon’s father Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s mother Sybrina Fulton, Eugene, Jeantel, Crump, and HarperCollins, the publisher of Crump’s compendium of lies, Legalized Genocide of Colored People. First, the facts, presented in the suit:...
https://spectator.org/zimmerman-suit-trayvon-martin-black-lives-matter/


41 posted on 09/04/2020 7:51:50 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: thecodont

Joe Biden’s wise opinions on this matter are clearly needed.


42 posted on 09/04/2020 7:56:04 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Fightin Whitey

We don’t know all the facts yet, of course. But if the article is to be believed, the cop went from trying to grab the bat, to firing his taser, to firing his pistol all in the span of 40 seconds. That is not a point in his favor.

I saw the video. The black guy was acting weirdly. But he wasn’t charging anyone (that I could see). As you noted, that cop just might be a time bomb or as a fricking moron.


43 posted on 09/04/2020 7:57:53 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

The cop knew that he was on camera so I doubt he was itching to shoot someone.

I can not imagine any use of force policy that would not consider this a deadly force encounter. If a person were to get hit in the head with a bat serious bodily harm or death would be the result.

When it comes to use of force the Supreme Court asks the question would a reasonable person act in the same way. I believe that firing one shot at a person who is threatening ones life with a bat is reasonable.


44 posted on 09/04/2020 8:00:37 PM PDT by 98charlie
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To: TexasGurl24
#Elon needs to make this and set it to stune for the cops. Give them the option for kill if needed.
45 posted on 09/04/2020 8:03:15 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Insane. You can easily kill someone with a baseball bat."

So anyone holding a baseball bat, in a store that sells baseball bats, should be subject to being shot?

46 posted on 09/04/2020 8:03:29 PM PDT by mlo
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To: thecodont

47 posted on 09/04/2020 8:04:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Plugs/Jugs 2020....Joe/Ho 2020...)
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To: Leaning Right

How is that not a point in his favor? If that is true then the cop went through a use of force continuum increasing the use of force as the suspect continued to resist and threaten the lives of the officers. What else were the officers suppose to do? Everything else had failed.


48 posted on 09/04/2020 8:05:12 PM PDT by 98charlie
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To: 98charlie

were the batteries charged in the taser? Personally I find the taser energizing. Gives me a jolt, gets me moving.


49 posted on 09/04/2020 8:05:54 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins)
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To: thecodont

One good hit to the head with a baseball bat and you are either dead or brain damaged/crippled. That idiot brought a bat to a gun fight.


50 posted on 09/04/2020 8:06:54 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: mlo

No but most people holding a bat have no intent of harming anyone. Intent, means and opportunity are three things that need to be considered before using force.


51 posted on 09/04/2020 8:07:02 PM PDT by 98charlie
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To: euram

You can take the Man or Woman out of Africa, but you can’t take the Africa out of the Man or Woman.

Isn’t that the Continent where they still chop people with machete’s or pile tires on them and set them on fire?


52 posted on 09/04/2020 8:13:48 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: thecodont

And it only took about 5 months for someone to post an article about a guy threatening people with a bat.


53 posted on 09/04/2020 8:16:43 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: mlo

in the context of this story, moron


54 posted on 09/04/2020 8:18:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AFB-XYZ

AAAWW; their just pissed because they can’t ENSLAVE US.


55 posted on 09/04/2020 8:19:32 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

He could still give that a shot. I am willing to give him another chance.


56 posted on 09/04/2020 8:25:01 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: mrsmith

I don’t see the problem with calling the person a “man.”

It’s more precise.


57 posted on 09/04/2020 8:28:27 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give Me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: 98charlie

I support the blue and I don’t believe I have ever criticized a cop on FR, though I have argued on behalf of several.

Maybe I saw a different video than you did, but the cop appeared to me to be some distance, at least a few feet, away from the perp.

Maybe the black man was closer, maybe the cop felt definitely threatened. Maybe in ordinary times this shooting would have made the papers, caused a fuss for a few days, and melted away.

These aren’t ordinary times. Another black man is dead, some or all of it is on tape, and the entitled public—the great vast anti-American public—are in a lynching mood.

What I tried to say in my post is that it is shocking to me that any half-informed cop has got to realize now that he is out there on his own, that the normal rules-—the GOOD rules, no longer effing count.

DON’T RISK IT.


58 posted on 09/04/2020 8:28:45 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: 98charlie

> How is that not a point in his favor? If that is true then the cop went through a use of force continuum... <

Going through a use of force continuum is good. But if you do it all in less than 40 seconds...that’s maybe not so good. It might show the officer had panicked to some extent. That was my point.

There are cases where waiting 40 seconds before shooting is way too long. But I saw the video. The black guy was a threat. But was he a possible lethal threat, or probable lethal threat? It’s not obvious to me. It will take a jury to decide that.


59 posted on 09/04/2020 8:29:40 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: thecodont

if he wasn’t a threat to anyone why call the cops

in cali you can steal up to 750 bucks or 900 bucks of stuff and the cops wont come


60 posted on 09/04/2020 8:32:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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