Posted on 09/09/2020 6:42:31 PM PDT by familyop
” assume that this virus will kill everyone who gets it”
Yeah, no longer a reasonable assumption. Though it was in March or even April.
Our meds have since come up with good treatments that make a difference.
They’d have done that months earlier if China hadn’t been so secretive and dishonest.
Heck, I may be classed a “flubro” soon. Wouldn’t take much more success to put me there.
“Also, though it’s true that an individual virus particle is incredibly tiny, many will be clustered in larger droplets that can be affected by coverings.”
The larger particles are heavier and hit the ground in 3-10 feet. Hence “social distancing”. If it is small enough to stay airborne, it is small enough to pass thru the vast majority of masks.
“You’d have to explain to me why you think covid won’t get on those particles...”
The small aerosol sized COVID can get on those particles. They will also pass freely thru your mask to get TO those particles. Arguably, a mask would prevent those dust particles that have come into contact with a COVID aerosol to enter your body. In which case, wearing a mask you help YOU and someone else not wearing a mask would do you no harm. So if YOU wish to wear a mask, have at it!
But masks are made mandatory on the idea it will keep me from spreading it, by trapping COVID inside my mask. And that will not happen with the smaller stuff, while the larger stuff will fall to the ground anyways.
Meanwhile, extensive contact tracing indicates someone who is asymptomatic - not sneezing, coughing or with a fever - spreads the disease to no more than 1% of new cases. The biggest study to date gave an answer of 0.3%. So yeah, avoid SYMPTOMATIC people and you’re 99% or more in good shape!
To date, I’ve know 3 people with COVID. All asymptomatic except one had a mild fever. One died with it - although I doubt he died OF it. All three were/are married. None of their spouses caught it, in spite of living with and sleeping with the COVID spouse!
I’ll add that I’m in the higher risk group, elderly with moderately high blood pressure. I’m retired and stay at home most of the time, anyway. It’s no big problem for me to wear a mask when I’m near people, mostly just for a half hour’s grocery shopping.
I agree that young persons appear to be at very little risk, but old persons and others with serious medical conditions may be at enough risk to justify taking precautions. Others too, when around them, should have enough consideration to stay away, or wear a mask if nearby. In some instances it’s their own parents and grandparents who are at risk.
A distinction lost on most Governors and enemedia...not that there is much difference.
P-L-A-C-E-B-O
“But masks are made mandatory on the idea it will keep me from spreading it, by trapping COVID inside my mask. And that will not happen with the smaller stuff, while the larger stuff will fall to the ground anyways.”
In a high traffic store one may find ‘droplets’ in the air, or the aerosols. It’s a reasonable assumption.
Of course, the mandatory mask rules are for both the infected and the not infected.
Not a fan of them- I ignore mine all the time unless a store insists. Then I wear a surgical mask that obviously does no good with my full beard.
Symptomatics should stay home. But there may be good reason they can’t.
Just this week heard of a family I know that’s got it. Quaranteening at home with very mild symptoms so far.
Masks are designed and used to stop bacteria. Viruses are 250 times smaller. The spaces between the mask fibers are huge compared to a virus.
Using a mask to stop a virus is like being under fire in combat and taking cover behind a chain link fence.
This has been reported for months. Viral load matters.
It's like going out into a tidal cove and placing a cinder block to stop the incoming tide. It comes in right past the block.
Then when the tide goes out saying 'whew, good thing I put that cinder block out there or else the tide would have been much worse.'
>> “The larger particles are heavier and hit the ground in 3-10 feet.” <<
Well, that upper range is a pretty big distance. I walk within a few feet of people in the grocery store often, and in the checkout line am usually at no more just a few feet away from the cashier.
As for the small droplets that get through a mask, apparently there weren’t enough of them for me to feel a gust of air a couple of feet away when I did a test cough with a mouth covering. If that test doesn’t matter, and if virus particles don’t need to be propelled, but can merely slip through and float in the air for a long time, then it seems to me that not just masks but social distancing too won’t be of much help (that is, if such quantities are enough to cause the disease).
Until I see good evidence of that, though, I’m going to assume that masks and distancing significantly reduce the chances of getting sick.
I saw a man driving his car who was wearing a mask, and the car was a convertible, with the top down.
I have been depressed ever since.
Might as well said it was determined by their support of green energy, did they consider how quickly it reproduces .. it only takes one
>> “Viruses are 250 times smaller.” <<
But are virus particles typically alone, or clustered in larger droplets of moisture?
Being polite- here’s something on the anti-maskers side.
I’m noticing people with those cloth masks not keeping a distance.
a lady wearing one stood closer to me at the store than would be acceptable even before the virus.
Maybe she had a particular reason but still, those cloth masks seem to encourage people to be less careful than they should.
“study suggests” = propaganda
EVERY time.
Annnnnd here it comes- mandated masks EVERY Flu season from here on out, along with the lecture- ‘If it can save just one life, it’s worth it’
Settled science!
Burqas for all!
Makes no difference. The droplets may be slowed down, but eventually they are inhaled and at some point exhaled back out.
Masks are bacterial concentrators and they will concentrate but not stop viruses and droplets.
Look at what they are wearing in a virus isolation room or lab. It isn’t masks, it is a full up, sealed, bio suit.
It depends on the length of exposure.
Most people have short exposure in real life.
Heck, most of the time they don’t need even a mask.
But when they do... well, they should wear one.
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