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Federal judge’s ruling utterly rips apart indefinite coronavirus lockdowns
Bgr.com ^ | 9/15/20 | Andy Meek

Posted on 09/15/2020 5:03:58 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: Phinneous

Not entirely true. One state senator, Doug Mastriano - a retired Army colonel from the York area, has led the efforts in the state legislature to put an end to this nonsense, but was overruled by the state supreme court. I fully expect Doug to run for governor in two years.


41 posted on 09/15/2020 6:37:20 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: cotton1706
Unfortunately, the restrictions ...

No bias there...

42 posted on 09/15/2020 6:39:33 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: lightman

Ping


43 posted on 09/15/2020 6:47:49 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: cotton1706

Living in Pa., I feel that I have the right to say that Governer Tom Wolf is exactly what he appears to be, a dick with ears.


44 posted on 09/15/2020 6:48:38 AM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Oddly enough, the PA and Federal courts may BOTH be right. The PA courts rule on state law — which may allow for that idiocy — and the Federal courts rule on constitutional matters.

The Federal rulings will override the state courts. It happens all the time — even in extreme cases where Federal troops have been used to enforce school desegregation orders.

45 posted on 09/15/2020 6:58:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“There’s somebody new and he sure ain’t no rodeo man.”)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
From what I’ve seen, there’s been minimal enforcement of any of these measures in recent months anyway. The PA health commissioner’s office lost a legal battle to shut down the Carlisle Car Show in early July, and it seems like almost every shutdown since then has basically been voluntary.

It’s worth noting that the Carlisle Car Show won their legal battle simply by presenting evidence in court showing that jackass governor parading around in “Black Lives Matter” protests — without a face diaper and with no social distancing measures in place. The judge in that case basically just laughed the health commissioner’s lawyers out of her courtroom.

46 posted on 09/15/2020 7:06:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“There’s somebody new and he sure ain’t no rodeo man.”)
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To: EEGator
Emperor Wolf and his he-bitch will be fighting this...

The good news is the the ruling was from a federal judge. If it had been a state court/judge who made the ruling, Wolf would have run to the PA state Supreme Court, whose majority are in his pocket. Wolf will have a more difficult time trying to have the ruling overturned in the federal court system.

47 posted on 09/15/2020 7:23:15 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Alberta's Child
From what I’ve seen, there’s been minimal enforcement of any of these measures in recent months anyway.

This may be so, but as my wife pointed out, the sword Wolf has had over businesses is to revoke their licenses. This court ruling takes away that threat.

48 posted on 09/15/2020 7:26:42 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

I am fully expecting Fauci to spout off about this today in an effort to sway the appeals court.


49 posted on 09/15/2020 7:28:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Paleo Pete

Thanks to both of you!


50 posted on 09/15/2020 7:28:10 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: Sirius Lee

You win this thread. Congrats!


51 posted on 09/15/2020 7:29:15 AM PDT by freedomlover
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52 posted on 09/15/2020 7:43:49 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

DOH!

Why didn’t I think of Judicial Watch???

Nice catch...


53 posted on 09/15/2020 7:53:08 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (I smile because you are family. I laugh because you can do nothing about it...)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
PA Supreme Court cannot suspend the US Constitution. And this Federal judge just said that's what they and Wolf did. So he wins.

Until Wolf finds an Obama judge to say Wolf really is dictator for life and that's that. Which he'll do.

54 posted on 09/15/2020 7:57:25 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Biggirl

The Steelers are owned by an anti-American *sshole. Screw ‘em.


55 posted on 09/15/2020 8:00:01 AM PDT by Varda
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To: cotton1706

Sets up an interesting comparison.

The sames measure were presumed constitutional in an emergency of limited time duration - courts would generally NOT give temporary restraining order on the same facts, because courts aren’t a good place to judge the nature of the emergency.

But after the passage of time, the same facts and the same measures become too much for the constitution to bear.

Now that we have this experience behind us, how will the courts judge the edicts issued when the next novel virus pandemic starts?

Keep in mind there is SCOTUS precedent in support of California limiting church attendance due to pandemic, but that was in the TRO context.


56 posted on 09/15/2020 8:01:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MAGAthon
"There seems to be one law for the peaceful and another for the dangerous," Mr Bolt said. "The easier you are to bully around because you are a law-abiding, nice person ... the more your freedoms are actually in danger.

This is an obvious truth. It's why government make examples out of the weak, it's easier and it cows most of the rest into submission.

And it isn't just that your freedoms are in danger, they are TAKEN, forbidden by the government that claims to be for protecting freedom.

Governments do not function by protecting freedom. They function by limiting freedom. The more power government has, the more freedom it limits.

57 posted on 09/15/2020 8:07:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cotton1706

I hope the court’s decision is upheld on appeal, and I wish that Judge Stickman has issued a nationwide injunction as RAT judges routinely do in the ordinary course of ruling against anything conservative.

Although the Plaintiffs asserted a number of constitutional challenges (freedom of speech, assembly, and travel, due process, and equal protection), I am surprised that the they did not assert a “takings claim” — that the complete shutdown of legitimate businesses in the name of public heath resulted in the inverse condemnation of private property for the public good without just compensation.


58 posted on 09/15/2020 8:13:43 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Last I heard, PA sports bar / restaurants (at least here in Montgomery county), just got ordered to stop selling alcohol after 10pm, beginning September 21st.

This is the final nail in the coffin for many sports bar / restaurants which were limping by on 25% seating capacity, suspended promotional activities, such as league pool, live music, quizzo, back to college celebrations, and televised sports events.

Even apart from the seating capacity restrictions, business is way off, as customers stay away for a myriad of reasons: Some actually fear Covid19, others are disappointed or confused by the limited services, limited menus, unpredictable hours, reduced entertainment - many customers, apparently, find the ambience of a mostly-empty establishment with small clusters of mask-wearing introverts to be depressing.

Owners, managers and servers had worked hard and sacrificed much to adapt to the distancing guidelines, hoping to survive the summer, strung along by vague promises that PA should be able to return to normal “sometime in the fall”, but this new order is a real punch in the gut.


59 posted on 09/15/2020 9:22:02 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: cotton1706

Since this a Federal Judge, does it apply to other states?


60 posted on 09/15/2020 9:23:24 AM PDT by freedom1st (Build the Wall)
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