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To: artichokegrower

Yes.
The left ignores forestry science for environmental “feelings”. We must follow to the science!
Putting off all forest fires started around 1900, but our forefathers meant it as a start of intensive forest management program. Basically the trees saved from fires were supposed to be cut and used. But then the environmentalists ordered that all trees must be saved from the saw. Then the spotted owl fiasco happened and drove lumberjacks out of business. Now we have forest being cleansed naturally by fires all over. We need radical intensive scientific forest management plan NOW!
Note - most fires are on Federal land, actually mostly on protected wilderness and National parks! Why? Because private lands are managed! The “pristine forest” is the fire breeder.
We will not be fire free unless we cut at least three quarter of the trees, preferably a lot more. We also need to build a lot of forest roads to facilitate fire management.
BTW the spotted owl is being displaced by its brother - the Barred owl. The only effective way to save it is to eradicate barred owl from spotted owl habitat.


7 posted on 09/22/2020 8:22:30 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: AZJeep

How to manage forest to prevent fires is known. They just don’t do it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/science/how-a-forest-stopped-a-fire-in-its-tracks.html

How a Forest Stopped a Fire in Its Tracks

By JAMES GORMAN

Published: July 22, 2003

SUSANVILLE, Calif.— Where the fire came through Blacks Mountain Experimental Forest last September, the ground is ash and the trees are charcoal. Black and gray are the colors, lightened only by small mounds of red dust at the base of some of the charred trunks — the leavings of bark beetles — and flecks of green where new growth pokes above the ash.

Through the tall, ravaged columns, however, a living pine forest is visible. And as visitors inspecting the fire damage walk toward the living forest, they come to an abrupt transition.

September’s blaze was named the Cone Fire, for the hill where it was first thought to have begun. It burned 2,000 acres of Lassen National Forest, and 1,600 of those were in Blacks Mountain Experimental Forest, a 10,000-acre area within Lassen set up in 1934 for ecological study by the Forest Service.

When the Cone Fire swept through these woods it came to a patch of forest that was different from the rest, and stopped dead, like a mime at an invisible wall. What stopped the fire was an experimental plot that had been selectively logged to thin it, and had been burned in controlled fashion. The result was an open forest, much the way it might have been 500 years ago when regular forest fires swept through the high dry country and no one tried to stop them.

‘’It just stopped,’’ Carl N. Skinner said, looking satisfied but almost surprised. Mr. Skinner, a geographer with the Forest Service at the Redding Silviculture Laboratory in Redding, Calif., and Dr. Steve Zack, a conservation scientist with the North American Program of the Wildlife Conservation Society, along with other Forest Service colleagues, are showing a reporter the results of an accidental experiment that still impresses them each time they visit it.

‘’Night and day,’’ Dr. Zack said.

‘’If we hadn’t treated this it would have just blown right through this area,’’ Mr. Skinner said.

Excerpt more at link


21 posted on 09/23/2020 10:00:06 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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