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China’s Largest Real Estate Developers Face Financing Crunch; 76 of the biggest real estate developers need to repay $367 trillion in the next 12 months, including $25.69 trillion in interest
Epoch Times ^ | 09/28/2020 | Nicole Hao

Posted on 09/28/2020 8:59:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: RockyTx

The epoch times tells me exactly what i want. I’m suspicious of this outfit. They were pushing the three gourges dam failure was, breathless, about to collapse


21 posted on 09/28/2020 9:52:29 PM PDT by datricker (the war of 2024 will be fought at 2.4Ghz stock up on aluminium foil now!)
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To: RockyTx

The epoch times tells me exactly what i want. I’m suspicious of this outfit. They were pushing the three gourges dam failure was, breathless, about to collapse


22 posted on 09/28/2020 9:52:30 PM PDT by datricker (the war of 2024 will be fought at 2.4Ghz stock up on aluminium foil now!)
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To: dp0622

Here is a more accurate picture ( I think ) from Reuters:

SOURCE: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-evergrande-idUSKBN26J082

“China Evergrande’s borrowings totalled 835.5 billion yuan at June-end, of which onshore trust loans and bank lending made up 41% and 29% respectively.”

835 Billion Yuan amounts to only $120 Billion ( OK, still a large sum, but not unmanageable from a Chinese government rescue point of view ).


23 posted on 09/28/2020 9:53:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

https://archive.is/Foxak#selection-1395.0-1412.0

Sorry...I led you to the wrong link.

ARTICLE TITLE

Shocked: Who is the first to detonate the 76 real estate companies who have to pay 2.5 trillion debts within a year?


24 posted on 09/28/2020 9:54:44 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my travels, I saw that China’s corporate, personal and government debt is 300 percent of GDP.

I’m wondering what ours is.

Lots of countries in a lot of debt. wow.


25 posted on 09/28/2020 9:56:30 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: dp0622
It says in that Chinese website ( translated to English ): Four companies have more than 100 billion yuan in interest-bearing liabilities due within one year. Evergrande, Sunac, Greenland, and Country Garden amount to 395.7 billion ( $56 Billion), 140.6 billion ($20 billion ), 121.4 billion ($17 Billion) , and 105.8 billion ($15 Billion ), respectively. There are 6 companies with interest-bearing liabilities exceeding 50 billion-100 billion yuan due within one year, namely Vanke, China, R&F, Tahoe, China Merchants, and Poly.


Yes, these are large sums, but not impossible for the government of China to bail out ( just like the Feds did with our banks and mortgage companies during the 2008 financial crisis ).
26 posted on 09/28/2020 10:00:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dp0622
RE: In my travels, I saw that China’s corporate, personal and government debt is 300 percent of GDP. I’m wondering what ours is.



27 posted on 09/28/2020 10:03:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dp0622

28 posted on 09/28/2020 10:03:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Top. Kek.

1) And they say TRUMP is in financial trouble?
2) Sounds like China coulda used some old-fashioned global *cough* warming. Oh well, there’s always the Three Gorges Dam for a loan reset.


29 posted on 09/28/2020 10:06:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dp0622

How many fraudulent votes for Omar would that take?


30 posted on 09/28/2020 10:07:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dp0622

Some third-world author that doesn’t know the difference between conventions using ‘.’ vs ‘,’ as a placeholder in numbers?


31 posted on 09/28/2020 10:08:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: neverevergiveup

[If this is indicative of China’s finances in general, they are in a very precarious place. That said, this makes China an even bigger threat, as their political ‘leadership’ will not just go quietly into the night.]


A smaller threat, because foreign wars exacerbate financial problems. The factions circling each other and eyeing Xi Jinping’s seat are waiting for their opportunity. He can watch his back or fight a war successfully, but he can’t do both. Some people take “Wag the Dog” seriously. As someone who’s read a big stack of history books, I class that movie with “Planet of the Apes” and “Star Wars”, as far as plausibility goes.


32 posted on 09/28/2020 10:32:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: dp0622; SeekAndFind

You might say that was an “Epoch” failure.


33 posted on 09/28/2020 10:34:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Pretty soon Trump will own half of Red China. Welcome to the new Trump Hotel and Politburo Complex in Peking!!!


34 posted on 09/29/2020 2:23:44 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SeekAndFind; dp0622

It is hard to get reliable numbers out of China, because fraud has become such a dominant norm in business and government there.

Yet it is clear by many measures, that they have gone on a truly historic debt binge. A lot of it is pure Ponzi Scheme fraud, and a lot of actual business is far too over leveraged to sustain through a recession. A few months back (before COVID) McKinsey warned that the majority of industrial companies in China were at a very high risk of not being able to meet even the interest payments on their debt, much less pay down the principal.

By far, this has been the greatest debt binge in history.


35 posted on 09/29/2020 2:49:18 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: neverevergiveup
"...this makes China an even bigger threat, as their political ‘leadership’ will not just go quietly into the night."

A tight spot only a major war can pull them out of?

36 posted on 09/29/2020 3:23:30 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area")
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To: SeekAndFind

A hundred trillion here, a hundred trillion there. Pretty soon you’re talking real money.


37 posted on 09/29/2020 5:08:28 AM PDT by utax
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, China is dumping the paper yuan for the digital yuan. It’s probably cheaper and easier to add zeros to a digital currency than a paper currency. Digital saves the cost of ink, paper and printing press machines.

The digital yuan should not be confused in any way as a cryptocurrency like ethereum or bitcoin.

Anyway, I think China is on the brink of some ridiculous catastrophic event that nobody expected.

(Buy gold and jars of chunky apple sauce w/cinnamon.)


38 posted on 09/29/2020 6:38:26 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave

RE: The digital yuan should not be confused in any way as a cryptocurrency like ethereum or bitcoin.

It also makes your transactions TRACEABLE by the Chicoms. As long as anybody doesn’t mind this, be my guest.


39 posted on 09/29/2020 6:42:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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