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Could non-citizens decide the November election? [Washington Post October 24, 2014: “6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008… Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens”]
Washington Post ^ | October 24, 2014

Posted on 09/29/2020 12:40:24 PM PDT by grundle

How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.

Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin.

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KEYWORDS: 2020election; election2020; landslide; trumplandslide
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1 posted on 09/29/2020 12:40:24 PM PDT by grundle
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Wtf! How can a non US citizen?!


2 posted on 09/29/2020 12:43:38 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (COMDEMS would rather rule over a pile of ashes, than lose to Trump and REAL Americans)
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“Takers” yes. Illegal and legal. The “takers”, “gimme dats” will always vote dem.


3 posted on 09/29/2020 12:44:04 PM PDT by albie
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To: grundle

Obama, after he was President, said in some public television forum that “when you vote, you are a citizen”. What a wonderfully ambiguous way to tell non-native English speakers that they have to be a citizen to vote. NOT!


4 posted on 09/29/2020 12:45:05 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: grundle

The county officials and state gov leaders that have allowed this to occur are traitors and should be treated as such... This is war..and traitors are dealt with in a special means!

This makes me sick!


5 posted on 09/29/2020 1:00:47 PM PDT by Patriot_MP (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: grundle

They have learned that they do not get prosecuted for illegal votes. The numbers are probably much higher now.


6 posted on 09/29/2020 1:01:41 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: grundle

No one questioning how they know this information?

The number of illegals voting and WHO they voted for??


7 posted on 09/29/2020 1:13:09 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: grundle
Eight posts made and no one has expressed surprise that this came from the Bezos Washington Post!!!
8 posted on 09/29/2020 1:16:09 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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Thank you for referencing that article grundle. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Could non-citizens decide the November election??"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The post-Civil War congressional record points out a major constitutional problem with letting non-citizens vote.

More specifically, lawmakers recognized not only that non-citizens do not have the power to vote, but also that renegade states that let non-citizens vote not only weakens the voting power of lawful citizen voters, but effectively nullifies the Constitution’s “Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause,” (1.8.4).

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government desperate Democrats home in November!

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping SARS-CoV-2 will effectively give fast-working Trump a "third term" in office imo.

I don’t see any problem with voting Republican ticket for 2020 elections.

Insights welcome.

9 posted on 09/29/2020 1:25:08 PM PDT by Amendment10
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***The “takers”, “gimme dats” will always vote dem.***

Lyndon Johnson was right when he said he would have them voting democrat for the next two hundred years. They were so easily bought.


10 posted on 09/29/2020 1:34:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The “takers”, “gimme dats” will always vote dem

My tagline used to be: "Socialism will always be popular as long as some people believe they can get something for nothing." BTW, I like the term "gimmedats".

11 posted on 09/29/2020 1:59:12 PM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: DCBryan1

Starts with Motor Voter laws.....


12 posted on 09/29/2020 1:59:58 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

My only surprise is the WP admitting this BEFORE the election.


13 posted on 09/29/2020 2:00:21 PM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: grundle

Where I vote, you have to show the poll worker your picture ID, and the poll worker checks it (probably for the home address) against one of those huge computer printouts. If illegals are voting, see if the poll workers do that there and if not, act accordingly.


14 posted on 09/29/2020 2:01:54 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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There needs to be a complete overhaul of the US election system after this election. Obviously, if the Dems win the WH, keep the House or win the Senate, this won’t occur. But if the Republicans win everything, then the overhaul HAS to occur.

Yes, this is 50 state elections - but the Feds can put in place rules requiring certain standards for all people voting for candidates for any federal office. This should be along the lines of verifying the eligibility of someone to even register to vote in even-numbered years, something along the lines of e-verify or the standard for driver licenses now in place in each state. Specific penalties for failure to verify have to be in place against state officials, and they have to verify at least 30 days before each election (primaries and the general). NO felons, NO dead people, NO people who are no longer resident in the country or state in question, and NO FOREIGNERS, PERIOD!

If this is not done, then the day on which the Dems literally steal power is not far off...as it is, that may be only 42 days away from right now. But if we foil their plans, then we have to make certain that this can never occur again.


15 posted on 09/29/2020 2:19:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Hmm . . . does the U.S. manipulate elections in other countries?


16 posted on 09/29/2020 2:34:16 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: grundle

So....20% of illegals vote Republican?


17 posted on 09/29/2020 2:53:18 PM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: grundle

When the Congress doesn’t even care if the candidates are natural born citizens and eligible, why would they care if the voters are citizens?


18 posted on 09/29/2020 2:56:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: the_Watchman

Obama was never eligible,

He is not a natural born citizen.


19 posted on 09/29/2020 2:56:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: grundle
40-to-50 million illegals now in country...

6.4% = 2.6 million-to-3.2 million votes for Harris-Pelousy...

The communists are counting on it...

Added to the double-counting, multiple-voting, and stuffed ballot techniques that are about to be used again, they are confidant about the outcome...

Here in Maryland, the communist governor has eliminated almost every single voting location...
The few he has kept are concentrated in high-crime areas to keep white people at home (not voting) or wasting their time with the fake mail-in voting technique...

20 posted on 09/29/2020 4:17:50 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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