Seriously?
Why should I hunt through the thread for you? Are you really that lazy?
What is wrong with you?
Why not instead of saying “what he said and his wife” you simply use the name of the man to whom you are referring, and a brief synopsis of what he said. Like two or three words. I’m not lazy. You are being abstruse for no purpose. If I want abstruseness, I’ll read him and his mentor. But if I want to communicate, I’ll tell you that I mean TS Eliot and Ezra Pound, who at least represent the high modernist school of abstruse, overwritten poetry. You, however, represent nothing other than a fool who wants to say nothing about anything. End of this discussion. It’s a wasteland, and ends not with a bang but a snicker.