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Virginia legislature passes bill preventing cops from stopping cars with no headlights, brake lights, etc. (VA Goes Woke)
Law Enforcement Today ^ | 10/16/2020

Posted on 10/20/2020 1:21:31 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

The following contains editorial content written by a retired Chief of Police and current staff writer for Law Enforcement Today.

RICHMOND, VA- The pure “genius” of the Virginia General Assembly knows no bounds.

One of the leading indicators of a drunk driver at night is a car that is operating with no lights on. Criminals who are casing neighborhoods for burglaries also like to cruise around with their lights off.

Under a law passed by the General Assembly, police officers would no longer be able to use operating without lights lit as probable cause to conduct a traffic stop. There are numerous other equipment violations that are included as well.

As we said, pure genius.

Yahoo News, citing a report from The Daily Press, says the legislation, which is headed to the desk of Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D), also bars police from stopping cars for a variety of equipment violations—from darkly tinted windows (another tactic enjoyed by criminals) to faulty brake lights, loud mufflers, or objects dangling from rearview mirrors.

Not only that, but officers are prohibited from pulling drivers over for expired inspection stickers, unless they are three months overdue, or for having outdated registration plates. Genius.

Typical for a state legislator, the lawmaker who sponsored the bill, Patrick Hope claimed not to know that police were no longer allowed to stop vehicles for not having their lights illuminated, until he was asked about it by a reporter from The Daily Press. He said he would “look into” that aspect of the bill. Just in time, right?

Absurdly, Hope said that he had talked to attorneys to who told him someone driving without headlights could still be pulled over for reckless driving or suspicion of driving impaired.

So honestly, what the hell difference does it make? What’s the point of removing no headlights from offenses officers can stop someone for and replacing it with one of the above two offenses? Does that make any sense?

“Headlights was never something that I had focused on, and at no time did I mention headlights in any discussion,” Hope said.

Guess the magic legislative fairy just dropped it in there.

“I sleep well at night with the other things that are in there,” he said. “The brake lights—I’m not concerned about that as a safety issue—but I can certainly see how headlights could be of concern. I’ll go back and take a second look at that and maybe there’s something we can do.”

“Not concerned about that as a safety issue?” Is this guy for real? What on earth does he think brake lights are for? They are there to warn people following behind of a hazard, or that the vehicle is slowing down to either make a turn or stop. They are there for a reason. But these ignorant bozos make the laws.

It gets better. The bill, known as House Bill 5058, would also prohibit police officers from conducting a vehicle search if they smell marijuana, a typical indicator which gives officers probable cause to search cars for illegal drugs.

Proponents of the legislation claim that officers abuse that practice, claiming officers can “make up” smelling the odor of pot, and therefore—wait for it—can “perpetuate racial disparities in the justice system.” Because as well all know, only people of color smoke dope.

Arlington Public Defender Brad Haywood loves the idea, saying:

“This might be the most significant reform of the state’s criminal justice system in decades. This is a big step forward for racial justice in Virginia,” the executive director of Justice Forward Virginia said.

Law enforcement groups, however slammed the legislation, arguing that it will damage community policing efforts, and thwart officers’ ability to act proactively in detecting and fighting criminal activity. They claim it will also make roads in the state significantly less safe.

“Do they not care about public safety at all?” asked Sheriff J.D. “Danny” Diggs of the York-Poquoson Sheriff’s Department. “It’s gone beyond being anti-police now. Now, they’re anti-public safety and the safety of citizens.”

Diggs contends that matters such as working brake lights are important in order to prevent accidents.

“And no headlights?” Diggs asked indignantly. “No headlights are one of the top indicators of a drunk driver…the smell of marijuana? They don’t care about people driving impaired, maybe getting ready to kill someone. That’s a significant problem in states where marijuana is legal.”

Both Diggs and Dana Schrad, executive director of the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police say that if lawmakers don’t like particular laws, just repeal those and do not move away from enforcement.

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Schrad said if Northam signs the bill and it becomes law:

“Virginia will end up with more crashes and more fatalities.”

A local defense attorney, Ron Smith said that stops based upon the smell of marijuana lead to a lot of court cases. He said that even though marijuana has moved toward a civil infraction rather than a criminal offense for low amounts, police use the smell of marijuana as a means to get into cars and search them.

He said the legislation could lend itself to a “significant” reduction in local court cases.

“It’s not gonna be very busy in the courtroom, I can tell you that,” he said. “The number of cases is going to drop dramatically.”

He noted that he had been talking to a prosecutor a few days earlier and “he was like, ‘We’re not going to have much to do, are we?’”

The bill passed both houses of the General Assembly along party lines with (of course) all Democrats in favor and all Republicans opposed. Northam can now decide whether to sign the bill into law or mark it up and send it back to the legislature with changes.

“Governor Northam is committed to comprehensive criminal justice reform and looks forward to reviewing this legislation,” Northam’s spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky said.

This bill is another in line of criminal justice “reform” legislation filed in this session of the Virginia General Assembly in response to the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis police custody in May.

This bill came about, Haywood said because data allegedly shows there’s a “wide racial disparity” in police stops for equipment violations. He claimed that regarding equipment violations, “if you’re black, you’re much more likely to be pulled over.”

He also claims that “pre-textual policing is probably the primary source of racial disparities in the criminal justice system.”

Smith claims that police in the Commonwealth often pull people over because one of the two lights illuminating the rear license plate is inoperable, or there is something hanging from the rearview mirror.

“If you get stopped for a dangling object, you don’t have to be very wise to know that the officer didn’t care about the dangling object,” Smith said.

“The real reason is that he thinks something else is up…So he finds something like a dangling object and then he stops you—and then he says he smelled marijuana. It’s a free search warrant.”

Yup, because for Democrats and liberals, cops are the bad guys, right?

He did add, “But I will say this. Those stops, sometimes, lead to bigger things.”

When officers stop a vehicle, they will typically run the plate number through NCIC, or the National Crime Information Center database. If the car is stolen, or there is an active warrant for the driver or occupants of the car, that gives the officer the right to place them under arrest.

Obviously, if upon stopping a car and having probable cause to search it, an officer finds items such as stolen property, illegal handguns or drugs, occupants can be arrested.

Hope claimed that during hearings and in “webinars in stakeholder groups,” he “heard from, mostly from communities, people of color, that being pulled over by law enforcement was more than just an anxious event. It was very fearful for them.”

But, this isn’t about the traffic violator according to Hope. It’s for “officer safety” as well. Yeah, right.

“That can escalate to something that can be very dangerous,” he said. “And I should also add that it’s not just a danger just for the person behind the wheel. It’s also dangerous for law enforcement to pull someone over on the side of a highway.”

In among the prohibited stops includes the use of a cell phone—whether handheld or not—while operating under a learner’s permit. Wait, what?

They are going to permit young, inexperienced drivers to compound their inexperience by allowing them to utilize electronic devices while driving and not using that as a pretext for a traffic stop? You honestly cannot make this stuff up.

Not to confuse the issue, but the prohibited violations could still be cited, but only as secondary enforcement. So, if an inexperienced driver on a learner’s permit crashes into someone while using their cellphone, you could then cite them for it. Got it.

The law goes further. If an officer stops a car for any of the reasons cited in the bill, any evidence they find is inadmissible. In other words, as Diggs says:

“If I was to stop a car for no headlights or something, and there’s a dead body in the backseat, that’s just too bad—‘Oh well.’ They just don’t care about the detection of crime anymore.”

Diggs also mentioned that sometimes, an officer will stop a car as a courtesy just to let the driver know, “Hey, did you know your tail lights are out?”

He also disputed the notion that police officers specifically target minorities for traffic stops.

“That’s one of the biggest lies out there,” he said. “When you ride around at night in your car, see if you can determine the race…of the person in front of you.”

Smith said if the bill is signed that policing in Virginia will have to change.

“It think they’ll have to evolve into a different type of crime-solving,” he said. “They’ll have to concentrate on bigger things. They’ll have to evolve into a different kind of crime detection.”

Concentrate on bigger things? Like the increase in vehicle accidents and fatalities caused by such a tone-deaf, ignorant and plain old stupid law like this? Those kind of bigger things?



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"This is a big step forward for racial justice in Virginia"
1 posted on 10/20/2020 1:21:31 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

there you go drug and gun runners and kidnappers or trafficers. How do you think most felons are caught Virgina?

That’s okay. Instead of people BEHAVING like humans at a traffic stop we should become a lawless.

how about getting rid of stupid ass laws and regulations that strangle the middle class?


2 posted on 10/20/2020 1:27:25 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Altura Ct.

So driving at night with no lights won’t get you pulled over? Come on, Man!


3 posted on 10/20/2020 1:27:30 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts.)
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To: Altura Ct.

So, they’re saying blacks cannot seem to keep their cars in proper shape?


4 posted on 10/20/2020 1:28:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Altura Ct.

“It’s not gonna be very busy in the courtroom, I can tell you that,” he said. “The number of cases is going to drop dramatically.”

He noted that he had been talking to a prosecutor a few days earlier and “he was like, ‘We’re not going to have much to do, are we?’”

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They can switch over to the morgue. They will be busy.


5 posted on 10/20/2020 1:30:32 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: Altura Ct.

Adding to the fact the legislature also passed a bill that lessens the penalty for assaulting a cop from a felony to a misdemeanor.. this state has gone over the rails.


6 posted on 10/20/2020 1:31:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (First, letÂ’s deal with the election; then weÂ’ll deal with BLM.)
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To: CodeToad

Blacks ALWAYS have great cars it is the illegals that have beat up cars with no insurance, no license, no registration SO why not no lights, no brakes ect, ect.


7 posted on 10/20/2020 1:31:45 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Guess the magic legislative fairy just dropped it in there.”

That’d be Danica Roem, the tranny who reps the 13th district in the House of Delegates.


8 posted on 10/20/2020 1:34:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (First, letÂ’s deal with the election; then weÂ’ll deal with BLM.)
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To: Altura Ct.

If you think about it, there is nothing more racially unjust than letting people get away with driving at night with no headlights:

Oh, sorry dude, I didn’t see you,


9 posted on 10/20/2020 1:35:40 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: snarkytart

OK, if you guys don’t want criminals to be weeded out by the cops, don’t complain when common citizens end up having to shoot them dead in the commission of their crimes.

Bad decisions can have very bad consequences.


10 posted on 10/20/2020 1:50:40 AM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: zencycler

Or no brake lights. And you’d be at fault for hitting him in the rear.


11 posted on 10/20/2020 1:57:20 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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All this means is we will have speed cameras in the smaller jurisdictions and the fines will have to increase.


12 posted on 10/20/2020 1:59:34 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Altura Ct.; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; LS; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; ...
"This is a big step forward for racial justice in Virginia"

Which curiously happens to coincide with an explosion in the crime rate. Demonrat-ruled states are a threat to actual law-abiding citizens.

13 posted on 10/20/2020 2:01:09 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: Bullish

Next they’ll get rid of self defense as a justification. Just watch.


14 posted on 10/20/2020 2:02:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: newnhdad

Want to bet that speed camera tickets will get tossed if the car owner is black?


15 posted on 10/20/2020 2:03:49 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: snarkytart

Remember, VA is the ONLY state in the country with a radar/lidar detector ban. Yet the GOP, even when they ran things, somehow couldn’t get it gone even with decades to do it in and lots of people demanding it be removed.

The VA GOP has been very useless for a very long time.


16 posted on 10/20/2020 2:06:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: snarkytart

These same fools pass “gun safety” laws to oppress ordinary citizens.


17 posted on 10/20/2020 2:07:35 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

It’s mostly to protect illegal aliens who may not have a car with insurance or working safety equipment.


18 posted on 10/20/2020 2:10:38 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Altura Ct.

I don’t know what makes Liberals so STUPID, but it REALLY WORKS!!


19 posted on 10/20/2020 2:18:41 AM PDT by afchief
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To: Altura Ct.

Politics can’t fix the mess we’re in, in fact it’s politics that got us here. Be prepared to fight for yourself and family.


20 posted on 10/20/2020 2:28:39 AM PDT by JonPreston (The Delphi method is a thing)
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