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Trump Won the Debate - But Won Bigly the Post-Debate
National Review Online ^ | October 23, 2020 | By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON

Posted on 10/23/2020 6:44:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

There was a low bar for Joe Biden in the first debate, given his cognitive challenges. Because he exceeded that pessimism, he won momentum.

In opposite fashion, there was similarly an expectation that a disruptive Donald Trump would turn off the audience by the sort of interruptions and bullying that characterized the first debate.

He did not do that. He instead let a cocky Biden sound off, and thus more or less tie himself into knots on a host of topics, but most critically on gas and oil. So likewise Trump will gain momentum by exceeding those prognoses.

But far more importantly, the back-and-forth repartee will not matter other than Trump went toe to toe, but in a tough, dignified manner and beat Biden on points. Biden did not go blank — although he come close, often especially in the last 20 minutes. Had the debate gone another 30 minutes, his occasional lapses could have become chronic.

What instead counts most are the days after. The debate take-aways, the news clips, the post facto fact checks, and the soundbites to be used in ads over the next ten days all favor Trump. In this regard, Biden did poorly and will suffer continual bleeding in the swing states.

By the weekend Biden will be out of his basement and trying to reboot his campaign and actually be forced to campaign.

But most importantly, Trump kept his cool, was deferential to Welker, and was tough but not cruel to Biden.

The final question is not whether Trump won and will be seen to have won bigly by next week, but to what degree Biden’s suicidal talk of ending fossil fuels and denial of the Hunter Biden evidence that cannot be denied implode his campaign early next week or not until Election Day.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bidencrimefamily; bidenscandals; davis; election2020; hanson; presidentialelection; vdh; victor
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1 posted on 10/23/2020 6:44:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What instead counts most are the days after

I agree, Rove made this same point. Biden gave tons of ammo to use, they need to leverage it at the rallies and in ads.

2 posted on 10/23/2020 6:46:26 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (FILL THE SEAT)
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Joe Biden's Debate Answer He's Going To Regret
His answer will probably will cost him Pennsylvania.

newspushed.com ^ | October 23, 2020 | by Adam Morgan / fr Posted by Red Badger

<><> Pres Trump challenged Biden on fracking.

<><> Biden was defiant and proclaimed he never said he would ban fracking. He challenged Pres Trump to put the tape on his website.

<><> Trump posted the video of Biden saying countless times, he "would ban fracking."

<><> even worse for Biden, he actually said he "would end the oil and gas industry."

Biden's answer even shocked moderator Kristen Welker who followed up and said, “Uh, why would you do that?”

3 posted on 10/23/2020 6:48:18 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“By the weekend Biden will be out of his basement and trying to reboot his campaign and actually be forced to campaign.”

But INSTANT COVID-19 DEATH lurks outside of the basement. Biden has painted himself into a corner of the basement. This will be interesting to watch unfold.

Ted Cruz just heckled Biden for “c’mon, man” on Fox Business. When Ted Cruz clowns you, you suck.


4 posted on 10/23/2020 6:49:05 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
By the weekend Biden will be out of his basement

I wonder how fast Joe can recover and walk around in the daylight?

5 posted on 10/23/2020 6:50:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: 1Old Pro
Biden gave tons of ammo to use, they need to leverage it at the rallies and in ads.

What Joe Biden meant by "Pay the price."

6 posted on 10/23/2020 6:50:54 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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Biden lost the debate when he apparently had had it.....checked his watch to see how much longer he would have to endure.


7 posted on 10/23/2020 6:51:15 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I wonder how fast Joe can recover and walk around in the daylight?

I guess they're driving him a few miles down the street for a big event speech today in Delaware with no attendees.

8 posted on 10/23/2020 6:51:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (FILL THE SEAT)
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Someone told me that it’s likely that Biden is on some sort of drug that sharpens the mind, but only lasts about an hour and is worn off by two hours.


9 posted on 10/23/2020 6:52:15 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Liz

I was wondering where that picture was, I noticed the camera moved quickly when he did this last night.


10 posted on 10/23/2020 6:52:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (FILL THE SEAT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bump for later.


11 posted on 10/23/2020 6:52:56 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How is this look only a few years older than PTrump?


12 posted on 10/23/2020 6:53:12 AM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: 1Old Pro

It’s all over the i-net now.


13 posted on 10/23/2020 6:54:10 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shame so many have voted.


14 posted on 10/23/2020 6:54:37 AM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Should be record viewers for the upcoming Trump Rallies.


15 posted on 10/23/2020 6:55:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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16 posted on 10/23/2020 6:56:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Liz

You would think after the Bush debacle in 92, a candidate would know better than to wear a watch at a debate.


17 posted on 10/23/2020 6:56:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The final question is not whether Trump won and will be seen to have won bigly by next week..."

If anybody has any doubts about the influence President Trump has had on the optimism and swagger of the America landscape, one only needs look at the fact that four years ago, no serious academic and prolific scholarly author like VDH would have dared used the word, "bigly," in his or her writing.

18 posted on 10/23/2020 6:57:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: sanjuanbob

25 years ago, I took my dad for a complete evaluation as he frequently sounded out of his head. The next morning, he sounded completely together. I sad to the nurse ‘I cannot believe the turnaround!’. She said ‘we gave him Haldol. It will wear off soon’.

I wonder what they use these days to make a person with dementia sound cognitive??


19 posted on 10/23/2020 6:57:17 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Stravinsky
Shame so many have voted.

That's the drawback of not waiting until ELECTION Day.

20 posted on 10/23/2020 6:57:34 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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