Posted on 12/21/2020 4:15:45 PM PST by george76
“The state will provide just enough stations to make it look like they are serious when they are going to put the main toll on the car owners. “
Washington state building codes require the builder to install, not the state. Large occupancy sites will require 5% of parking spaces to have chargers.
I already see minimarts adding them!
“EVs cost more than the ICE.”
At 100k miles you will have $7,500 in fuel savings. And that would be assuming Biden doesn’t raise gas prices.
According to Forbes.com, Enel X, the company that installs these machines, predicts at least 2 million charging stations will be needed for Washington State to be fully electric by 2045, about 1,600,000 home chargers and 500,000 commercial and public charging stations. So the largest part (and cost) of the covering of the need will have to be done by the private citizen in what they are saying they are capable of.
And then there are the taxes and fees that states will have to charge for maintaining their transportation infrastructure like roads, bridges and charging stations. Without gas, there’ll be no gas tax anymore, so there will have to be some kind of mileage tax or an electricity surcharge at the charging station, even if it’s at home.
This is not going to be pretty when the taxes fly out to the public if it is relative to the current gas tax. In Washington, drivers pay a 49.4 cent per gallon state gas tax. The federal government charges 18.4 cents per gallon, also. The average cost of regular gas in Washington is $2.75 per. That means they will have to replace roughly one fifth of the cost of the unit based upon higher priced standards. So the comparable cost will have to be an increase on the current high tax costs. Gas prices in Washington state are the third most expensive in the country already according to KING5.
The state has been trying to get people on to public transportation for a long time. They may finally make it when it becomes to expensive to own, or drive a hybrid.
And shutting down the use of fossil fuels has a whole lot more ramifications international and domestic that is going to create a huge gap and possible combat.
Oil is strategically important but oil is a scarce resource. The shortage of oil in the world market can lead to disastrous effects and consistent changes in the world politics and economy, to the extent that the shortage of oil is likely to put a considerable part of the world’s population to the edge next to starving. In this regard, many specialists stress that, in the last year, wheat (think flour) has risen by 130%, rice by 74%, soya by 87%, and corn by 31%, while there are now only eight to 12 weeks of cereal stocks left globally (Klare, 2008). At this point, it is important to place emphasis on the fact that the major reason for such a skyrocketing rise in the price for major products resulted from the lack of oil and high oil prices in the world market. Cutting it out is going to hammer everyone’s economy. And if it taking 25 years for one state to get independent of it, then how long will it take for countries depending on it’s sales so they can buy food, to get even with their loss of sales? Probably my great grandkids won’t see it. And a lot of hungry people are going to kill a lot of others to get food. Probably a good bet part of it in the US and also coming from other countries to us. The US is the world’s largest producer of maize (corn), the third-largest producer of wheat, fifth-largest producer of potatoes, tenth-largest producer of sugarcane and twelfth-largest producer of rice.
And people thought there was a crowd at the border now. People don’t go to a place looking for food unless it is there. And everyone knows it is here.
wy69
I see that as pointless because the affordability just isn’t there: the EV generally currently costs in excess of $7,500 more than the equivalent ICE vehicle.
(And I still don’t think you’ve addressed the infrastructure issue.)
“(And I still don’t think you’ve addressed the infrastructure issue.)”
It has been addressed.
“I see that as pointless because the affordability just isn’t there: the EV generally currently costs in excess of $7,500 more than the equivalent ICE vehicle.”
That is only for 100k miles.
The gas buggy originally cost more than a horse buggy.
“Again, the cost will be dependent on your location and proximity to utility connections. It requires a three phase utility pole.”
Level 2, 240v chargers are inexpensive and serve the needs of most that want to upgrade from 120v.
The car is the limiter. You mentioned 7.7 kw. That would be the Volt. Audi will take 9.6 kw. Easily getting 200 miles of charging while you are sleeping.
Chargers up to and exceeding 20 kw are available.
Sounds like you’re an electrical engineer.
Glad to see the humor communicates.
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