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“Breakthrough” – IBM And Fujifilm Develop New Magnetic Tape With 580TB Capacity
Nation And State ^ | 12-26-2020 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 12/26/2020 6:25:28 AM PST by blam

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To: glorgau
They can't exceed the internal bus speed of the computer.

Of course not, but neither can a physical hard drive. In any event, the fact that it is tape isn't always the bottleneck like many assume.
61 posted on 12/26/2020 10:03:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Bob434

I wish they would hurry up, I have cameras but no film.


62 posted on 12/26/2020 10:04:00 AM PST by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: blam
In retro stealth packaging.


63 posted on 12/26/2020 10:33:56 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: beancounter13

No doubt tape is used for Glacier deep storage. Longevity is the question.


64 posted on 12/26/2020 11:20:04 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: blam

Surely some kind of cassette needs inventing.

With Sram making a big cache it should be pretty fast.


65 posted on 12/26/2020 11:24:24 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Bobalu

The old reel tape drives were pretty fun. Very sophisticated machines.


66 posted on 12/26/2020 11:25:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: omni-scientist
A couple more parameters would be of interest:

I would add...
4. What is the total capacity of a cartridge?
5. How long to completely fill a tape cartridge?
6. How long is the tape expected to last?

I used to shag tapes for a living. IBM data cartridges were lots easier to deal with than reels of tape.

67 posted on 12/26/2020 12:13:40 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: libertylover
Me too. I hated that a tape would work fine on one machine but the machine next to it couldn't read it at all. Luckily, I didn't have to use them a lot.

A lot of times, that is the result of head drift on the helical scan heads. That is why it is critical to periodically cut a tape on one drive, and read it on another. That used to be part of my job, after the first time we had a tape drive failure, and then found we couldn't read anything that had been written by that drive for the past year or so. It would read/write fine on that one drive, but we didn't notice the issue until the drive completely crapped out. We had an entire year's worth of backups that were essentially useless without spending major money to have a hardware guy tweak the heads until it would read it.

There are a lot of things you can do to help you maintain tape-based media. One of my favorite hints to folks back when VHS was still a thing, is that you always played the movie all the way to the end, then did not rewind. You only rewind the tape right before you watch it. This will make your tapes last a lot longer, and not have weird 'stretch' issues, among other things.

68 posted on 12/26/2020 12:24:31 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: fireman15

I didn’t want to say Alpha Microsystems was the vendor. Back in the day, they were selling 68000-based systems, running what looked like a TOPS-10 knockoff OS, to system integrators for custom hardware & software solutions.

I wasn’t sure if Alpha Micro had produced a mass-market version of their backup product.


69 posted on 12/26/2020 12:28:11 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: billorites
I thought I recognized these.

I have a bunch of 4-track and 8-track tape cartridges from the 1960s. I thought the magnetic tape would go bad over the years. Nope. Problem is that the foam and rubber disintegrated on many cartridges, but the magnetic tape is still good. I have a few players and recorders that still work, but shy away from playing the remaining tapes. (Also have some 9-track tape reels from my work on mainframes in the 1970s but no device for them...).

70 posted on 12/26/2020 12:39:18 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

I transferred to digital some 8mm color movies that my father shot between 1938-40. The splices had often dried out and failed, but the films themselves and the color was as if they were shot yesterday. Kodacolor lasts at least!


71 posted on 12/26/2020 12:43:19 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
I transferred to digital some 8mm color movies that my father shot between 1938-40.

You're lucky! I tried to transfer some of my dad's 8mm movies from the 1950s & 1960s but half of them turned into goop. This was about 20 years ago, and the nitrate film had dissolved, probably because the cans weren't airtight. Only got a few converted.

72 posted on 12/26/2020 12:55:03 PM PST by roadcat
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To: blam

Good lord, the powers that be want to drive us back to the days of Tape media? Ugh.


73 posted on 12/26/2020 12:57:46 PM PST by KobraKai
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To: blam

In twenty years we’ll just refer to it as 8 track II.


74 posted on 12/26/2020 3:18:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (foreign collusions did happen, it just wasn't 2016 when it happened)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Not sure what data centers you are working in but tapes have been a thing of the past for the better part of a decade.


75 posted on 12/26/2020 8:43:48 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Bobalu
I ALWAYS came to grief when I tried to store data on magnetic tape :-/

Bummer. The truth is any media is subject to failure. It's a corollary of the general adversity of the universe towards meaningful organization, aka the massive slide into entropy.

Once you recognize this you can provide a engineering solution which accommodates the inevitable with some margin of tolerance...

Speaking as a person who has designed, engineered, and managed massive data processing and storage systems since the era of mag tape reels (which were mounted by hand!) - I can still remember the thrills of processing and ensuring access and fault tolerance and disaster recovery for a tape library that imported thousands of new reels each month. Every day my operators would fill the bin with unrecoverable magtapes. I had hundreds of tape drives, a small herd of lesser mainframes to keep things going, a disk drive farm measurable in acres, and the IBM tech would be working on one or more things every day. Something went wrong every day, and it was in the plan to find it and deal with it. Flash forward 20 years and the same size operation with equivalent tape storage fit on a couple of rack mount cabinets, only because I kept it in two data centers. By 2015 the equivalent fit in 12U of rack space and was online, but we kept multiples in different locations and an off-line tape archive for assuring recoverability guarantees.

76 posted on 01/03/2021 12:29:39 PM PST by no-s
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