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To: fieldmarshaldj
Soviet intelligence operations during WWII and after were phenomenally successful whether it was our home grown traitors like Hiss, White, etc.; or in Britain with the Cambridge 5 and the deep penetration of MI5 & MI6; and my particular favorite Sorge in Japan, a man who's spying altered the course of the war.

I strongly believe the Soviet vipers in our and British governments were never completely uprooted. Just a thought.

13 posted on 12/27/2020 11:13:41 AM PST by Robwin ( )
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To: Robwin

You’re quite right.


14 posted on 12/27/2020 1:19:25 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: Robwin
"Soviet intelligence operations during WWII and after were phenomenally successful whether it was our home grown traitors like Hiss, White, etc.; or in Britain with the Cambridge 5 and the deep penetration of MI5 & MI6..."

Going back to the lead up to WWII, American and British intelligence agencies and diplomatic services made a point of recruiting from the perceived upper-crust, "best and brightest," of their societies. Ironically, this led to these organizations being populated by persons with an elitist worldview for whom, ironically, the oligarchic nature of communism was more seductive than an allegiance to Constitutional monarchism (in the case of the UK) or democratic republicanism (in the case of the US).

I believe William Donovan was a true patriot and loved his country. He was an adept OSS chief leading a wartime organization; however, I think he was naïve in his strong preference for Ivy Leaguers whom he assumed would be strong patriots, when by that time, much of American Academia had been infiltrated by the left. Many in the OSS (and consequently in the early days of the CIA) were Ivy elites from prominent, wealthy families who had a stronger sense of duty and loyalty to their fraternities and social clubs than they did to their great unwashed countrymen.

15 posted on 12/27/2020 2:06:31 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Robwin

“my particular favorite Sorge in Japan, a man who’s spying altered the course of the war.”

Richard Sorge...Very interesting guy...

Japanese secret police caught him by tracking radio signals...

He is buried in Japan...Together with his Japanese lover...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sorge


16 posted on 01/12/2021 8:05:52 PM PST by L.A.Justice ( )
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