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America's Hospitals Say They Will Publish Previously Secret Prices On More Than 300 Medical Procedures For First Time
Wall Street Journal ^ | 01/02/2021 | Melanie Evans

Posted on 01/02/2021 7:16:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Major hospital operators say they will comply with new rules to make public their prices for medical procedures starting Friday, exposing previously secret market rates in an industry that accounts for about 6% of the U.S. economy.

The roughly $1.2 trillion hospital sector will begin posting prices publicly in the New Year after losing a legal challenge to overturn new transparency rules that are a centerpiece of the Trump administration’s health-care policy.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said earlier in December the hospital pricing data and other transparency rules put forward by the administration were fundamental to a competitive market.

Hospital pricing is negotiated confidentially between hospitals and the employer groups and insurance companies that pay for care, which has obscured market rates that have helped drive up the cost of health insurance premiums paid by employers and workers. Rising hospital prices accounted for about one-fifth of the nation’s health spending growth in the last half-century, federal data show.

The nation’s largest hospital chains, including publicly traded giants HCA Healthcare Inc., Universal Health Services Inc. and Community Health Systems Inc., and national nonprofit chains CommonSpirit Health and Ascension, said they planned to comply with new requirements to post pricing. Tenet Healthcare Corp. declined to comment.

“Ascension supports price transparency of our hospital services for the benefit of consumer choice and access to care for those we serve,” said Nick Ragone, a spokesman for the St. Louis-based chain.

As of Jan. 1, hospitals will be required to publish the prices negotiated privately with each payer for 300 common services for easy use by consumers, and make public the same information for all their procedures in a format that can be read and analyzed by computers.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


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KEYWORDS: america1sthealthcare; hospitals; medicalprocedures; notsecret; secretprices; transparency; trump; trumpcare
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The American Hospital Association sued to halt the rule as a violation of the First Amendment and said it went beyond the statutory intent of the Affordable Care Act, arguments rejected by a federal judge in the District of Columbia. A federal appeals court this week upheld that ruling.
1 posted on 01/02/2021 7:16:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I like this paragraph from Zero Hedge better giving credit where credit is due:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americas-hospitals-prepare-publish-long-secret-prices-charged-insurers

President Trump’s health-care policy ambitions didn’t receive much attention from the mainstream media, but as we head into the new year, some of his market-based reforms are starting to become reality.

One of the most important is a directive requiring the nation’s biggest hospital chains to publish the rates they’ve agreed to charge various insurers. As WSJ explains, after a failed attempt at an appeal, the major hospital operators are saying they will comply with the new rules and make their prices public starting on Friday.

Suddenly, America’s hospital operators, a $1.2 trillion industry comprising some 6% of the country’s economy, will be subjected to more transparency than they’ve seen in decades. And the Trump Administration policy wonks he pushed the idea are hoping that good ol’ fashioned market dynamics will kick in, and help lower prices across the board.

Per WSJ, the nation’s largest hospital chains, including publicly traded giants HCA Healthcare, Universal Health Services and Community Health Systems, and national nonprofit chains CommonSpirit Health and Ascension, are planing to comply with new requirements to post pricing. Tenet Healthcare declined to comment.

Within a week, hospitals will disclose prices for 300 common procedures.


2 posted on 01/02/2021 7:17:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does this mean the hospitals have to report all of the $3000+ they received for every hoax Covid case they reported?


3 posted on 01/02/2021 7:19:29 PM PST by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow!
What a great act by President Trump!


4 posted on 01/02/2021 7:20:28 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: SeekAndFind

just the pricing of medicine hacks me off

notwithstanding how cheap it is in India where they make it.

There can be a wide variety of prices for the same medicine depending on what coupon code you use...insurance versus Goodrx or Amazon Prime member Pharmacy savings card, etc.

I was looking at the prices in Rupees of a medicine and compared it to US prices. I thought maybe the exchange rate was messed up..I had to redo it just to be sure


5 posted on 01/02/2021 7:22:00 PM PST by RummyChick (1. I blame Kushner. 2. Pence and the firing squad tweet is my favorite absurdity of the election)
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To: All; SeekAndFind

Good luck getting the 70%-85% discount that Medicare/Medicaid gets. Best I have done for a “cash customer” is around 30% off....40% once in awhile depending on the Dr./lab.


6 posted on 01/02/2021 7:26:55 PM PST by Drago
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To: SeekAndFind

Fabulous. Thank you, President Trump.


7 posted on 01/02/2021 7:27:16 PM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: SeekAndFind

President Trump continues to throw wrenches into the gears of Global Reset. Hoo ah!


8 posted on 01/02/2021 7:30:12 PM PST by TigersEye (2020 - The year of massive frauds. Impeachment - masks - lockdowns - Biden - elections...)
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To: Drago

I got screwed over one time with a lab because their policy for people with no insurance was that you had to tell them ahead of time to get the discount

I didnt feel like dealing with it...but the price I had to pay was a lot higher than the insurance price.

Its a scammy racket.


9 posted on 01/02/2021 7:32:36 PM PST by RummyChick (1. I blame Kushner. 2. Pence and the firing squad tweet is my favorite absurdity of the election)
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To: SeekAndFind
President Trump looks out for regular Americans.

The Uniparty looks out for globalists and multinationals.

10 posted on 01/02/2021 7:37:30 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: RummyChick

Yep, way too much government price-fixing and involvement in paying for over 50% of all health care. Only way to fix health care pricing now would be to roll back to “cash only” payments and get the government 100% out of the “payer” side. The “cash-only” prices would be at a 60%-80% discount over current “retail” prices due to competition and lack of government price-fixing. Then slowly reintroduce traditional “group” health insurance (also at a 60%-80% discount over current premium rates).

Extremely unlikely to happen tho...USA will go “single-payer”/socialized long before they would go with my solution. After all health care is apparently a “right” nowadays...like housing, food, cell phones, and Internet access. I think access to work via transportation is a right...the govt. should buy me a Tesla under the “Green New Deal”!! ;-)


11 posted on 01/02/2021 7:48:23 PM PST by Drago
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To: SeekAndFind

Long overdue.

I am in the health insurance biz. One lab charges 280 for bloodwork, another 450 same blood work. See it all the time.

Larger insurance carriers get better contracts.ie. lower prices.

If a consumer calls in they will never give out the price because most do not know what it is.


12 posted on 01/02/2021 8:27:36 PM PST by setter
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"Larger insurance carriers get better contracts.ie. lower prices."

You do realize hospital systems and MDs use DRGs to call/negotiate the BS you are spewing. Insurance companies profit from younger policiy holders. What happens at 65? What is required?

The Federal government drives the darn costs/market, not the insurance companies. Heck. med-surg is the largest profit maker for hospital systems, why is that, duh?
13 posted on 01/02/2021 8:35:26 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

“You do realize hospital systems and MDs use DRGs to call/negotiate the BS you are spewing.”

Been in the business 35+ years. If that is the case why do doctors and hospitals drop out of networks with new pricing and stay with other networks? Why did 90% of local providers threaten to quit one of our local HMO’s and put a signed ad in the local newspaper due to lower pricing in the new contract? The HMO gave in.

I have numerous doctors insured. They tell me whats up.
I help clients with claims. I have seen the wide range of pricing for the same service from various insurance companies.


14 posted on 01/02/2021 8:44:07 PM PST by setter
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


15 posted on 01/02/2021 8:48:55 PM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: mrsmith

This has been the law in the Philippines for several years. You get a lab order and you ask what the cost is. If you don’t like the cost you can go outside of the hospital to private labs and save 50% or more there. A blood test, CBC, at the hospital is 500-1,000 Pesos, ($10-20), but 100-200 Pesos, ($2-4), at the private labs.


16 posted on 01/02/2021 8:50:44 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: rollo tomasi

“The Federal government drives the darn costs/market, not the insurance companies.”

Anthem BC sent us a list of top 5 factors what drives prices. #1 was high utilization (obesity, smoking etc). I never said insurance companies drive the market but they do when it comes to contracts.

Premiums in my area are 30-40% higher than other parts of the country because we have the highest rates per capita of cancer, obesity and diabetes in the entire country. Another reason why we only have two insurance carriers to pick from in my county. Two.


17 posted on 01/02/2021 8:54:09 PM PST by setter
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To: SeekAndFind

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) banned the building of any additional physician-owned medical centers that would have been competition for the corporate duopoly of medical providers and health insurance. It was a corporatist bill through and through.


18 posted on 01/02/2021 9:53:19 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

I appreciate the sentiment, but if I have a heart attack I’m probably going to skip shopping and price comparisons.

Seems to me the way it’s done now where the insurance company negotiates prices of procedures before hand is not an unreasonable way to control costs. Hospitals want the highest prices while insurance company want the lowest.


19 posted on 01/03/2021 12:23:39 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: mrsmith

This was part of his American First Healthcare initiative.


20 posted on 01/03/2021 12:23:45 AM PST by newzjunkey (Purdue in GA for the Senate - Vote Giant Meteor in 2022)
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