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Trump might knife the GOP with his lunatic impeachment defense
Washington Examiner ^ | February 1, 2021 | Tiana Lowe

Posted on 02/01/2021 9:24:42 AM PST by karpov

Even as a mere Florida man, former President Donald Trump sure looks as if he's trying to knife the Republican Party.

On Saturday morning, Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the House's resident anti-Semitic QAnon conspiracy theorist, boasted that she had shared a call with the supportive former president. By evening, news emerged that Trump's legal team had resigned barely 48 hours before his first response to the article of impeachment is due and a little more than a week before the Senate trial begins. The reason: Trump wants to present the one defense that would render it political suicide to acquit him.

Trump could argue that despite inviting his fans to Washington, D.C., during a pandemic and telling them he would lead them to the Capitol to "stop the steal," his aside that they ought to do so "peacefully and patriotically" shows he was not trying to incite violence. As a matter of process, he could also argue that the trial itself is illegitimate because he is now out of office — a position that 45 out of 50 Republican senators agree on. Either of these arguments might be weak, but both are at least something.

But no. Instead, to defend himself from the charge that he incited an insurrection at the Capitol, Trump reportedly wants to claim the election really was stolen from him. As one may notice, this is not a defense against incitement but rather a justification for it.

The Republican Party has carefully avoided defending Trump on the merits of his actions — even Trump's most loyal supporters. Sen. Rand Paul did him a big favor by forcing a vote on the constitutionality of a post-presidential impeachment trial. That has essentially locked 45 senators into acquittal on constitutional grounds.

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KEYWORDS: impeach; tianalowe; trump; trumpimpeachtrial
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To: madprof98
The election really was stolen. I don’t see how any sane person could doubt it.

I'm "sane" and I think the election was definitely not "stolen." For example, Sleepy Joe Basement Biden snoozed in his basement for 98% of his so-called "Presidential election campaign," as though he had literally no interest whatsoever in getting elected (while Trump intensely campaigned throughout the country to huge crowds, while simultaneously running the nation during a global pandemic). Also, a number of swing-state Democrat executive and judicial branches unconstitutionally changed election laws before the election.

The entire fake-news MSM relentlessly bashed President Trump while obsessively worshiping Sleepy Joe. And the Big Tech/social media companies censored President Trump. Swing-state Democrat big-city political machines kicked out election-count observers and then magically "found" huge treasure troves of Biden-votes in the middle of the night. Fox News's Chris Wallace intensely debated against President Trump in the first Trump-Wallace Presidential election debate. Etc., etc.

So I don't see why you're claiming the Democrat Party Cabal "stole" the election.

/s

101 posted on 02/01/2021 10:40:12 AM PST by gw-ington (The Office of the President-Elect gw-ington and Vice President-Elect Loch Ness Monster)
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To: Mariner

If you read the articles of impeachment it makes numerous claims to his “false” statements on election fraud. The impeachment articles interwine the cause and effect of the false statements leading to the so-called “insurerection”.

If he were to prove the claims of election fraud are true then the articles of impeachment are dead. It is one way to go.


102 posted on 02/01/2021 10:43:54 AM PST by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins; what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them.. )
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To: mass55th

> Leahy is illegally going to preside over the trial, what makes people think that he’ll even allow a defense based on voter fraud to be brought forward? <

That is a very important point! Had Chief Justice Roberts presided, things would have gone somewhat fairly. But Leahy will be openly partisan. No doubt about it.


103 posted on 02/01/2021 10:47:27 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: babble-on

Trump isn’t guilty of anything.

If he is “guilty” of something, please state it.


104 posted on 02/01/2021 10:49:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: madprof98

That’s “baseless!”


105 posted on 02/01/2021 10:49:41 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: CJ Wolf

“If he were to prove the claims of election fraud are true then the articles of impeachment are dead.”

The problem is every Federal and State court has found otherwise.


106 posted on 02/01/2021 10:49:44 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: gw-ington
So I don't see why you're claiming the Democrat Party Cabal "stole" the election.

The Dems used election fraud to steal the election, the old fashioned way.

Read the Navarro Report for the details.

107 posted on 02/01/2021 10:50:31 AM PST by kabar
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To: Mariner

Not being a jerk here, but can you copy/paste a link or two here of a case that actually went to trial or allowed witnesses to be presented?


108 posted on 02/01/2021 10:54:58 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty
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To: kabar

“Washington Post incites violence on GOP”. Two can play that game.


109 posted on 02/01/2021 10:55:01 AM PST by Cowgirl
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To: mass55th

“Now that Democrats control the Senate...”

If Leahy presides, does he have a vote? If so, the Senate is divided 50%-50%. If not, the Republicans have the majority.


110 posted on 02/01/2021 10:55:11 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: JonPreston

Caesar stabs Senators...

I can dig it.


111 posted on 02/01/2021 10:55:48 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: I-ambush
"If Leahy presides, does he have a vote? If so, the Senate is divided 50%-50%."

If you wait long enough, the Dems, with Senate Republican help, will change the rules so that they have the majority.

112 posted on 02/01/2021 10:56:44 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: karpov

The Apex Florida Man


113 posted on 02/01/2021 10:57:12 AM PST by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: karpov

Lunatic? Another volunteer for a GITMO waterboarding


114 posted on 02/01/2021 11:03:41 AM PST by BigEdLB (All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others-George Orwell)
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To: BenLurkin

I have a stupid question.
Why should he even show up to the “trial”.
Who is going to make him show up to this farce?


115 posted on 02/01/2021 11:04:44 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Pete Dovgan
First and foremost, how exactly did [President Trump] incite the crowd to attack the capital building.

Well, the Democrat Party Cabal obviously stole the 2020 Presidential election. Now the Democrat Party Cabal blames President Trump for "high Crimes and Misdemeanors," insurrection, sedition, that he "threatened the integrity of the democratic system," and therefore "remains a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution" ... "Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States."

It's a Classic Example of the Democrat Party Cabal's #1 most heavily-used tactic: Democrats perpetrate bad things, then blame Republicans for what Democrats themselves perpetrated. (Rinse, repeat.)

116 posted on 02/01/2021 11:07:55 AM PST by gw-ington (The Office of the President-Elect gw-ington and Vice President-Elect Loch Ness Monster)
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To: karpov

whats weak about the fact impeachment and removal only are options for people while in office?

if not, lets bring on the trials of hillary, obama, and biden as vp. Carters still alive, let’s impeach and remove him too.

Bring it.


117 posted on 02/01/2021 11:08:17 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: karpov

No. 1 if I were TRUMP I wouldn’t participate in this ILLEGAL CLOWN CAR CIRCUS SHOW! If he does he needs to tell the truth! THAT will kill the eGOP cause it will show they were involved with the dirty rotten thieving DEMs and deep state in fraud and non preemptive action to allow the theft of the election!

eGOP shot themselves in the foot - backstabbing ass-wipes!


118 posted on 02/01/2021 11:08:33 AM PST by ldish (WAS DEC 6th-Last OPP? NO-but we CONSERVATIVES now know we should've been there!)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
... can you copy/paste a link or two here of a case that actually went to trial or allowed witnesses to be presented?

But it was the most secure election in U.S. history!

AAAAAAAARGH!! .........


119 posted on 02/01/2021 11:11:27 AM PST by gw-ington (The Office of the President-Elect gw-ington and Vice President-Elect Loch Ness Monster)
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To: z3n
...clearly he must really 100% believe the steal really happened if he is going to use that as his defense.

Well, him and at least 80 million or so well-armed Americans. In fact, I would say that the only people, at this point, who don't accept at least the strong possibility that the election was stolen are communists and imbeciles. And I'm not so sure about the communists.
120 posted on 02/01/2021 11:19:26 AM PST by fr_freak
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