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The Fight Goes on to Eliminate Income Taxes on Social Security and Railroad Retirement Benefits
The Association of Mature American Citizens ^ | February 12, 2021 | John Grimaldi

Posted on 02/13/2021 8:31:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON, DC, Feb 12 – “We’re not giving up on our efforts to eliminate the unfair income tax on Social Security benefits. The Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act is being reintroduced and the Association of Mature American Citizens [AMAC] will be doing what it takes to encourage lawmakers to support the measure,” says Bob Carlstrom, president of AMAC Action, the association’s senior advocacy affiliate.

The original Social Security and tier 1 railroad retirement benefits were specifically exempted from income taxes when they were created in the mid 1930s. “After all, workers pay for them with taxes that are taken out of their paychecks to begin with. To tax retired seniors a second time is plain and simple a money grab.”

Carlstrom notes that AMAC’s founder, the late Dan Weber, was especially keen on seeing this particular piece of legislation become the law. As he put it, “Every year, millions of seniors become eligible for either Social Security or tier I railroad retirement benefits. After working for decades, being involuntarily taxed on their hard-earned income to fund these federal programs, some seniors are forced to pay income tax on the benefits they withdraw from the Social Security System. Taxing the very benefits created from taxed earnings is completely nonsensical and diminishes the retirement benefits seniors have been promised. Seniors deserve to reap the full benefits of their career-long contributions to Social Security and the Railroad Retirement Plan.”

It’s important to note that if your benefits are your only source of income, they likely will not be subject to income taxes. But, if you are working at a full time or part time job, if you have self-employment income, if you are receiving distributions from an IRA or 401k plan, or if you are collecting dividends from investments...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amendments; benefits; brokenpromise; clinton; congress; doubletaxation; fixedincomes; railroadretirement; reagan; socialsecurity; socialsecurityact; taxes
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Double taxation.
1 posted on 02/13/2021 8:31:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

End the double taxation (first Reagan (!), then Clinton).

PING!


2 posted on 02/13/2021 8:32:06 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The first rule of Government Club is NEVER repeal a tax.


3 posted on 02/13/2021 8:36:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have no sympathy for these people. They should have been pushing to end the Ponzi scheme of Social Security decades ago.

I run my own business, so I pay a double FICA tax for both the employer AND the employer ... and yet my Social Security benefits will be capped just like everyone else.

So ... cry me a river.

4 posted on 02/13/2021 8:37:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry — that’s EMPLOYEE and employer.


5 posted on 02/13/2021 8:37:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They stole my Social Security via The Windfall Act. Little known where, if you work private and public you can get your pension but not Social Security. God Bless the gov’t.


7 posted on 02/13/2021 8:39:35 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m am for this. I don’t get social security for 26 years, but when I hear widows with 1200 dollars losing two hundred to taxes. It’s disgraceful. Having them live on 1,000 is evil!!!!!


8 posted on 02/13/2021 8:46:03 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: Alberta's Child

I do too, but we will still get a pretty large check every month.


9 posted on 02/13/2021 8:47:29 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: protoconservative

Ive already been taxed to the max thank you. But I appreciate your nice words. By the way not everyone over 55 is the enemy


10 posted on 02/13/2021 8:48:20 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The employee pays tax on 1/2 the FICA and Med contribution when that is taken out of their paycheck.

Starting in 1983, 50% of the benefit was taxed, the theory being that the employer paid the other half, and took a deduction for it at that time.

For some reason it was raised to 85% during the Clinton years. I guess the justification was that that due to inflation, the benefit paid out was more than that paid in. With the lousy return on FICA nowadays, that might not by the case so much.

One theory then was Clinton was trying to discourage older people from working by increasing tax on them - that they would retire and make room for younger workers. There is also the benefit reduction for people who collect social security at or before their full retirement age, probably for the same reason, but I’m not sure when that was put into effect.


11 posted on 02/13/2021 8:48:24 AM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sanator Joe Bidens idea and legislation to begin with. They’re protesting it?

People could pay attention then we could hold on to our republic


12 posted on 02/13/2021 8:49:21 AM PST by stanne
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is no money.

It has to come from somewhere.

Complain all you want, but the only way out of this is a crash.


13 posted on 02/13/2021 8:50:13 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: Alberta's Child

A very bright memorey of mine is when my late grandfather suddenly started receiving SS.

He was FURIOUS!


14 posted on 02/13/2021 8:51:01 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: Alberta's Child

i pay all around. As a employee i have my paycheck raided for FicA and medicare. As a employer i pay the other portion as well. When I finally get to retire i will be taxed on my benefits as well There is no way I will recover even a fraction of the money I would have if I had been allowed to invest it rather than pay it to the government


15 posted on 02/13/2021 8:52:26 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: protoconservative
Because the former generations were greedy as f---.

I'm 60 and I can't argue with this. I look at 18-year-olds today and given the college costs they face, the national debt, the unfunded Social Security and Medicare liabilities coming due now and for the next few decades, and the enormous commie deep state and education cartel that seemingly run the whole country and can't be touched, I'd hardly blame them for putting a bounty on Boomers.

16 posted on 02/13/2021 8:52:28 AM PST by Tom in SFCA
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To: Alberta's Child

You run your own business? “You didn’t build that”... Barack Hussein Obama.


17 posted on 02/13/2021 8:56:46 AM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES wins elections...paraphrasing Joe Stalin)
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To: redgolum

That is funny. I did not suddenly start receiving SS checks. I had to go in and sign on for receiving benefits.


18 posted on 02/13/2021 8:59:10 AM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES wins elections...paraphrasing Joe Stalin)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People talk as if all retirees were just scrapping by on SS, but in fact 15% of all retirees have an income of over $100K, and 5% have over $200K.

It is actually fair easy for a retired couple to pay no income tax on an income of $60-70K, but if you’re over $100K you will pay some tax.


19 posted on 02/13/2021 9:00:04 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Tom in SFCA

I am a retiree, but I agree with the younger people that are pissed that older Folk are getting what they didn’t pay for, the whole system needs to be privatized, until that point it’s just a big Ponzi scheme, if they at least kept the so-called Social Security fund isolated from regular government spending there might be something left in the pot


20 posted on 02/13/2021 9:04:34 AM PST by bboise
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