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House Democrats have introduced a bill to give Puerto Rico statehood (H.R. 1522)
Breaking 911 ^ | March 7 | Breaking 911

Posted on 03/07/2021 11:52:14 AM PST by RandFan

@Breaking911

NEW: House Democrats have introduced a bill to give Puerto Rico statehood (H.R. 1522), which would give Democrats two more Senate seats and multiple House seats -Politico


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: articlex; pr; presidentbiden; presidentharris; puertorico; statehood; voterid
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To: hank ernade

Jeez. That was almost 75 years ago. There hasn’t been a nationalist party on the island for many, many years. And the independence movement overall is nearly dead.

Relax.


181 posted on 03/09/2021 5:03:59 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Consider this:

For every boycotter who did show up, the Democrats would simply have printed two more ballots.

You simply CANNOT win on a rigged table.


182 posted on 03/09/2021 5:04:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: HollyB; RandFan

I live in Puerto Rico and have always lived here except for my time in the U.S. Army.

In the last three votes, Puerto Ricans have chosen statehood, the latest one being last November where statehood garnered 52% of the vote.

I want statehood for Puerto Rico.

Having said all that, I don’t want statehood as a Democrat scheme to increase their Congressional majorities. Not that way.

Democrats have always opposed statehood and Republicans have always supported it. Ask yourselves why. You are losing sight of what’s really going on here. Puerto Rico is a de facto state, for many reasons that can be discussed. We’re already here and we’re not going anywhere.

I don’t mean to scream but WHAT’S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE PREEMPTING THE REPUBLICANS FROM GAINING ANY OF THE POTENTIAL SEATS FROM PUERTO RICO. They are squashing the Republican vote here. They already have a slate of Democrats and will not let any Republicans even run for the Tennessee Plan-type Congressional election that’s coming up on the island.

If Republicans were smart, they would tap into the dominant conservatism of the island. But ya’ll think that island Puerto Ricans think and vote like New York Puerto Ricans. Big mistake.


183 posted on 03/09/2021 5:15:01 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Ebenezer; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; Clemenza; Narcoleptic; paltz; ...
I am very late to this discussion. Not sure why it is all of a sudden on Breaking News, when it started two days ago. But my rant is on post # 183.

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


184 posted on 03/09/2021 5:19:15 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Lazamataz

by God, you’re right. we should just quit. hide behind some mysterious, undefined, and undefeatable conspiracy. post angry snit on an internet message forum about how angry and powerless we all are.

required effort: 0.

easy enough.


185 posted on 03/09/2021 5:24:31 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: cll

Thank you for your feed back.
The Puerto Rican’s that I know seem to like that distance from being an actual state, while still being ‘de facto’ as you stated. Perhaps it’s a national pride.

So, I appreciate your perspective. We’ll see what happens.


186 posted on 03/09/2021 6:10:40 PM PST by HollyB
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To: rarestia

That bill ain’t going anywhere, because both Dems and GOP are split within their own parties on the issue.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/puerto-rico-statehood-game-of-chicken-gop-democrats


187 posted on 03/09/2021 7:29:09 PM PST by paltz
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To: cll
But ya’ll think that island Puerto Ricans think and vote like New York Puerto Ricans. Big mistake.

Exactly right.

Most of the P.R.s that I know here in Florida, are not voting democrat. Democrats know that, and will do whatever it takes to prevent P.R. from turning/voting republican. The Puerto Ricans I know have gotten wise to he democrat tactics, and democrats want to stifle us.


188 posted on 03/09/2021 8:28:38 PM PST by adorno
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To: cll

Spain had no lawful authority to cede Puerto Rico to the US.

Something tells me you know as much about the PRNP as you know about the dark side of the moon.

Personally I have a problem with European nations gifting the US other nations.

Puerto Rico like Panama and the Philippines should be independent.

To hell with democrat land grabbers.


189 posted on 03/10/2021 3:18:16 AM PST by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: hank ernade

Re: Spain - I do agree that the cession of Puerto Rico to the U.S. was done without the consent of the people at the time, since Puerto Rico was by then a full fledged Autonomous Province of Spain.

Re: Puerto Rico Nationalist Party - I’ve lived in Puerto Rico all my life except for my years in the U.S. Army. There’s no Nationalist Party to speak of in Puerto Rico and there hasn’t been since the last of the 50s Congress shooters died. You might be talking about the Puerto Rico Independence Party, which usually garners less than 5% of the vote in our elections. That one is also so dead that its maximum leader, Ruben Berrios, lives in Orlando, Florida!


190 posted on 03/10/2021 3:53:59 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Maybe the Marshall Islands, even offer Mexico and other Central American countries statehood. Hell with them you never know. Maybe Canada will want to jump in and offer each of their states as individual states!!! Hell, we are all going to be one big happy world!! Woopie, we’re all going to die, as Country Joe sang at Woodstock!! Red China is going to be the Rockwyler on the block.


191 posted on 03/10/2021 4:57:45 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: rarestia

Nope. It’s all done by Congress and the joining territory/possession. If PR votes to join (which I don’t believe they have yet), and Congress votes to add them, they’re in.

The protection for the states on this matter (and many other matters) was a design-function of the Senate. But, that was undone by the 17A.


192 posted on 03/10/2021 5:32:13 AM PST by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Ahhh... Country Joe and the Fish... takes me back.


193 posted on 03/10/2021 7:16:06 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: cll

I doubt any PR nationalist would seek out your company much less reveal their numbers to you or any other pro-US Puerto Rican.

If the media is to be believed when the insurrectionists were pardoned by Carter they were met by a crowd of 5000 supporters upon their return to PR.

Which is nonce - if you yearn for the days of Banana Republic America, if you think an imperial republic is something attractive - then you are no friend of the Founders or the Constitution and most certainly no countryman of mine.


194 posted on 03/10/2021 8:39:14 AM PST by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: cll

Thanks for your post. Having some friends from PR (great people by the way), I am a bit more aware of the workings than most and they talk often about how corrupt the government is there. In fact, one of them told me long ago that the democrat politicians there would never support statehood because it would end the corrupt gravy train if the same laws applied in Florida were applied in PR.

What are your thoughts on this?


195 posted on 03/10/2021 9:42:00 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: RandFan
(Puerto Rico: A U.S. Territory in Crisis)

Puerto Rico is a welfare state, just the ticket for Lefties in America...power.

196 posted on 03/10/2021 9:46:15 AM PST by yoe (President Trump works for We The People - not China as Biden has and will.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
Wouldn't be a problem if the DIMS had not CHEATED like BIG DOGS...and "our side" DID NOTHING to STOP IT!!!

This was a stolen election...I know it. Do you?...

Hell I can prove it....

197 posted on 03/10/2021 9:50:51 AM PST by Osage Orange (TRUMP!!!)
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To: volunbeer

Yes, corruption here is a problem. So much so that the island was basically forced into a special bankruptcy procedure, and its finances are control by a federal government-appointed fiscal supervisory board. That will remain until the island achieves control of its debt and balanced budgets for three straight years.

As for avoiding statehood to cover up corruption, right now all federal laws apply in Puerto Rico as if it were a state and are enforced frequently and consistently. So, I don’t know how would statehood would be any different in that regard.


198 posted on 03/10/2021 10:21:59 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: hank ernade

“In the last three votes, Puerto Ricans have chosen statehood, the latest one being last November where statehood garnered 52% of the vote.”

Wow

Only 48% opposed.

I doubt the PRG ever controlled that much population.

No doubt can’t wait to lose their sovereignty for a handout from Uncle Sam.


199 posted on 03/10/2021 11:40:03 AM PST by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: DoodleDawg

“....and crass political concerns won’t make them look good.”

You mean like how the Dems ONLY reasons for admitting those three is TO INCREASE THE DEMOCRATS NUMBERS in the Senate, House and the electorate?

DO YOU SUPPORT D.C, PR, and Guam becoming States?

STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE OPTICS for the TREASONOUS MSM and start worrying about the U.S. irretrievably becoming the TURD (sic) WORLD COMMUNIST SHIT-HOLE.

Or are you looking forward to a violent conflagration.


200 posted on 03/10/2021 11:48:48 AM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA! (See my FR page for links to MDs & RX for pre-hospital Covid treatment & prophylaxis).)
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