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Marine Officer Warns Congress Against Classifying Christians in Military as ‘Religious Extremists’
epoch times ^ | 24 March A.D., 2021 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 03/24/2021 2:29:22 PM PDT by lightman

A slide used in a Department of Defense (DOD) training manual identifies Catholics and evangelical Christians as “religious extremists,” along with members of the Ku Klux Klan, al Qaeda and Hamas, according to a Marine Corps officer.

“First Liberty also obtained a screenshot of an unclassified slide from a U.S. Army training manual. The slide is entitled ‘Religious Extremism’ and it purports to identify religious extremists,” Michael Berry told the House Armed Services Committee during a hearing Wednesday entitled “Extremism in the Military.”

Berry is General Counsel to the First Liberty Institute (FLI), a Plano, Texas-based public interest law firm that specializes in First Amendment and religious freedom cases. Berry is also an officer in the Marine Corp Reserves, though he presented his testimony in his capacity as a civilian.

“Included among those listed are al Qaeda, Hamas and the Ku Klux Klan as groups that use or advocate violence to accomplish their objectives and are therefore rightly classified as extremists,” Berry told the committee.

“But also included are Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, who most assuredly do not advocate violence. Surely, the fact that Evangelical Christians and Catholics hold fast to millennia-old views on marriage and human sexuality does not make them extremists who are unfit to serve,” Berry continued.

“At a time of turmoil and instability, during which our nation faces many external threats, [this] message is inappropriate and offensive to our service members and those they defend,” he said.

The training manual that Berry referred to is used in Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s recently ordered “stand-down” to identify and root out extremists in the U.S. military. Austin’s order came in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol, in which some of the participants were military veterans.

Austin said in a DOD video explaining his reasons for the stand-down that all military members in each of the branches are required to view that “there is not a single doubt in my mind that you take seriously your oath to the Constitution and that you serve this country with honor and dignity and character.”

Even so, according to Austin in the video, the stand-down is needed because of “extremism and extremist ideology, views and conduct that runs counter to everything that we believe in.”

Austin claimed in the video that the presence of extremist views “is not new to our country and, sadly, it’s not new to our military.” He did not provide in the video any examples of such individuals.

The training materials used in Austin’s stand-down and presented by Berry during the hearing purported to present credible descriptions of extremist ideologies, conduct, reasoning and identifying characteristics.

Committee Chairman Adam Smith (D-Wash.) told the hearing in his opening statement that “if you serve in the military, you pledge an oath to the U.S. Constitution and to the laws of this country. If you disagree with that Constitution and you disagree with the laws of this country so strongly that you no longer think our government is legitimate, then you have no business serving in the U.S. military and you should get out now.”

Two issues were particularly prominent in witness testimony and committee members’ comments, the lack of credible data about the extent of any extremism in the ranks, and the lack of what constitutes impermissible expression of views and actions on behalf of those views.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the panel’s top Republican, told the hearing at the outset that “it is important to point out that we lack any concrete evidence that violent extremism is as rife in the military as some commentators claim.”

Rogers said “extremism was a factor” in the separation of only nine soldiers from the U.S. Army in 2020, and he noted that “since 2018, 17 Marines have been separated for extremism, gang or separatist activities.

“That’s 17 out of 200,000. While I agree that this number ought to be zero, this is far from the largest military justice issue facing our armed services,” Rogers said.

He also told the committee that “earlier this year, 151 overwhelmingly liberal organizations, including Human Rights Watch, the ACLU, and SPLC Action [Southern Poverty Law Center Action Fund], urged Congress not to expand domestic terrorism charges.”

“The organizations said, ‘We urge you to oppose any new domestic terrorism charge, the creation of a list of designated domestic terrorist organizations, or other expansion of existing terrorism-related authorities,’” Rogers said.

Besides Berry, the committee heard from only two other witnesses, Dr. Audrey Kurth Cronin, an American University Professor of International Security, and Lecia Brooks, Chief of Staff for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a liberal advocacy group that has often been criticized by conservatives for defining “extremism” so broadly as to include conventional political groups that clearly are not.

The newest Republican member of the committee, Rep. Pat Fallon (R-Texas) pointed out that “recently the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, NPR, and the New Yorker magazine, just to name a few, skewered the SPLC for, among other things, corruption, harassment, racism and a widening credibility gap.”

Fallon also noted that Cronin claimed 37 of those arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol were either U.S. military veterans or reservists.

“There are 18 million U.S. military veterans. Thirty-four were rioters. This means that 17,999,966 of us were not. That’s one out of 529,000,” Fallon said.

Smith rejected Fallon’s comments, however, as “logically absurd” because veterans arrested during or after the Jan. 6 riot do not represent the full scope of the problem. “We don’t know how large a problem this is, that’s why we’re having this hearing,” Smith declared.

Cronin told the committee in response to a question from Rep. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.) that recruitment efforts by extremist groups targeting active and retired military individuals “is indeed becoming an increasing problem.”

Asked by Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) his view on the use of lists of prohibited organizations, Berry said “they can be dangerous. Labeling evangelical Christians and Catholics as ‘extremists’ is opening Pandora’s box.”

Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) expressed concern that a DOD effort against extremism will play into the hands of Chinese Communist Party efforts to damage the U.S. image overseas.

“There is an active propaganda campaign being prosecuted by the Chinese Communist Party right now attempting to portray our country as an evil racist hellscape with no authority to lecture them on human rights. I worry that we may be playing into our adversary’s hands, and I do worry it will undermine our ability to fight and win wars in the future,” Waltz said.

Smith concluded the hearing by saying “there are demagogues on both sides” and that he “is very concerned about over-reactions … if we are targeting people and shutting them off from jobs and everything for something they said 20 years ago. There’s no reference point, no structure to that and it becomes just this excuse to shove your point of view down somebody’s throat.”


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To: packagingguy

So is Biden!


21 posted on 03/24/2021 4:25:35 PM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The best advice I can think of is from Alexandr Solzhenitsyn...

”And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
22 posted on 03/24/2021 4:35:20 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: lightman

Welcome to State Atheism.


23 posted on 03/24/2021 4:42:30 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Antifa=BLM=RevCom=CPUSA = CCP=Democratic Party )
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To: lightman

Adam Smith, the Pinocchio of the Hou$e. Did his face crack when he said he respected the Constitution?


24 posted on 03/24/2021 6:19:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!! NMP!)
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To: lightman
It probably doesn’t take a whole lot to qualify as a religious extremist to an atheist. Context is everything.

Too bad our national drive by media doesn’t provide it anymore.

25 posted on 03/24/2021 6:27:39 PM PDT by Kudsman (Baby Lives Matter)
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To: lightman

Bookmark


26 posted on 03/24/2021 8:04:34 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: lightman; Red Badger; Travis McGee; RatRipper; larrytown; ScubaDiver; DarthVader; Manly Warrior; ...
Thanks for posting this, and more than about 2 sentences which many FR posters lazily do. I posted this 2 days ago on the same issue: SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE MARINE CORPS MEMORANDUM SMMC Core Values Mem [worse than bad: the enemy is us; it's not your father's military. See comment]

From your article post:The training manual that Berry referred to is used in Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s recently ordered “stand-down” to identify and root out extremists in the U.S. military. Austin’s order came in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol, in which some of the participants were military veterans. .. Rogers said “extremism was a factor” in the separation of only nine soldiers from the U.S. Army in 2020, and he noted that “since 2018, 17 Marines have been separated for extremism, gang or separatist activities. “That’s 17 out of 200,000. While I agree that this number ought to be zero, this is far from the largest military justice issue facing our armed services,” Rogers said.

The newest Republican member of the committee, Rep. Pat Fallon (R-Texas) pointed out that “recently the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, NPR, and the New Yorker magazine, just to name a few, skewered the SPLC for, among other things, corruption, harassment, racism and a widening credibility gap.” Fallon also noted that Cronin claimed 37 of those arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol were either U.S. military veterans or reservists. “There are 18 million U.S. military veterans. Thirty-four were rioters. This means that 17,999,966 of us were not. That’s one out of 529,000,” Fallon said.

27 posted on 03/25/2021 5:50:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: AppyPappy

Oh that’s rich. I look forward to seeing the spin / moonwalk on the push back that’ll bring.

Then again maybe they’ll get a pass for not being white.


28 posted on 03/25/2021 5:58:19 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: lightman
Is The US Military Being Purged Of Rightists?

American Conservative ^ | March 23, 2021 | Rod Dreher Posted on 3/24/2021, 8:53:25 AM by C19fan This came into my inbox today from an Army lawyer (judge advocate). The reader gave me permission to post it if I left off his name and the names of mutual friends who urged him to reach out to me: I just read your piece, “Witness Against Wokeness” which reverberated strongly with me — not because I have any experience with Eastern European Communism, but because it is happening here and now and I am on the receiving end. I’ve already spoken with our mutual friends [names] about this matter and had hesitated to bring it to your attention. However, given the tenor of your latest article I have to warn you, the soft totalitarianism you’ve been trying to draw attention to is right in your own backyard. The great purge of Conservatives from the US military has begun; once the ranks are sufficiently cleansed then the overarching work to remake our country can begin in earnest. I am a part-time Army Reservist who has drilled for the past 4 years at the [unit] in [Louisiana city] and had recently transferred to the [unit near a different Louisiana city]. A week ago, I received my “Notice of Purge” in the form of a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand (“GOMOR”) personally signed by Lt. Gen. Charles Pede, The Judge Advocate General of the Army (the guy who advises the Joint Chiefs of Staff and briefs at the White House).

29 posted on 03/25/2021 6:32:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Senator Barry Goldwater R-Arizona, Republican Convention Presidential Campaign Acceptance Speech.............................


30 posted on 03/26/2021 5:43:23 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: AppyPappy

I doubt they make that classification. However, the military still does have a good bit of Conservative Christians in all of the ranks.

My brother is one, though the diversity crap will probably drive him to leave soon.


31 posted on 03/26/2021 9:31:08 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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