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Egypt "seizes" Suez megaship, demands nearly $1 bln compensation
AFP ^ | 13 April 2021

Posted on 04/13/2021 8:51:09 AM PDT by zeestephen

Maritime data company Lloyd's List said the blockage by the vessel, longer than four football fields, held up an estimated $9.6 billion-worth of cargo between Asia and Europe each day it was stuck.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: containership; evergiven; suezcanal
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1 posted on 04/13/2021 8:51:09 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Hmmmmm.


2 posted on 04/13/2021 8:51:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: zeestephen

Huh?


3 posted on 04/13/2021 8:54:03 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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To: zeestephen

Sentence first.

Trial later.

Meanwhile Exxon skated on the Valdez fiasco. 7 Billion Dollars in damages?

Meh.


4 posted on 04/13/2021 8:55:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: zeestephen

It is now the owners of the Ever Given that are stuck between a rock and a hard place.


5 posted on 04/13/2021 8:57:05 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: zeestephen

Seems a bit excessive but you knew there would be some kickback from this


6 posted on 04/13/2021 8:58:49 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: zeestephen

So that’s why my mountain bike jersey is taking so long.


7 posted on 04/13/2021 9:00:19 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you call about $1 billion skating.

Standard, common, reoccurring practice in Maritime Law is to seize any vessel with outstanding debts.


8 posted on 04/13/2021 9:02:11 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Responsibility2nd

Everybody overcharges and then settles.


9 posted on 04/13/2021 9:04:13 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: zeestephen

So if I slip and fall in the hallway of a restaurant, and it takes EMS an hour to remove me, the restaurant can sue me for the lost patrons during that hour?


10 posted on 04/13/2021 9:05:16 AM PDT by montag813 ("Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great")
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To: zeestephen

Totally reasonable and to be expected, IMHO.


11 posted on 04/13/2021 9:05:16 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: zeestephen
I did some admiralty law back in the day. There's a thing called a "maritime lien." It creates an "in rem" cause of action against the ship itself (and not against its owners, like in almost any other type of civil action).

The policy idea underlying the concept of "maritime lien" is to encourage parties engaged in things like emergency maritime rescue, salvage operations, port services, canal operators (as here) to render services (rescue the sailors, salvage cargo, load and unload ships, speed the ship's passage through a canal, etc.) without payment but with the promise that the creditor may sue naming the ship itself as debtor anywhere the creditor can locate and place a prejudgement attachment on the ship. This seems to be what Egypt has done.

Instead of suing the owners of the ship, Egypt just filed a case that we might call Egypt vs. SS Ever Given and slapped her with a prejudgement arrest order. Upon granting judgment, Egypt will simply auction of the ship and place the proceeds against the amount of damages awarded. Egypt can still then go after the owners for any deficiency.

12 posted on 04/13/2021 9:07:27 AM PDT by Thilly Thailor
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To: zeestephen

An Egyptian pilot was at the helm....


13 posted on 04/13/2021 9:08:18 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: montag813

“So if I slip and fall in the hallway of a restaurant, and it takes EMS an hour to remove me, the restaurant can sue me for the lost patrons during that hour?”

If that restaurant is a sovereign state, then the answer is yes.


14 posted on 04/13/2021 9:08:49 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: marktwain

“An Egyptian pilot was at the helm”

Except in the Panama Canal, the master is still in charge, he can counterman the pilot. I have actually done that.


15 posted on 04/13/2021 9:14:03 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: zeestephen

MSN.com reporters sure post a lot of solid news...


16 posted on 04/13/2021 9:15:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: marktwain

Certainly the one fact in the ship owners favor is that a pilot employed by the Suez Canal was in control.

Unless there was a mechanical failure that led to the incident....


17 posted on 04/13/2021 9:16:08 AM PDT by avkillick
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To: Responsibility2nd
Meanwhile Exxon skated on the Valdez fiasco.

How so? Exxon paid $2 billion in cleanup costs, and another $1.8 billion for restoration and personal damages.

As with all things deemed "environmental" the damages were grossly overstated.

18 posted on 04/13/2021 9:17:15 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: montag813

What if you crash your car into the drive-in? You shut down the restaurant for several days, and cause damage to the building.

Could the restaurant hold your car until the lawsuit over damages is resolved?

(I don’t actually know. It seems an interesting legal question)


19 posted on 04/13/2021 9:18:10 AM PDT by Renfrew
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Re: An Egyptian pilot was at the helm....

I read that she is Egypt's first female harbor pilot.

20 posted on 04/13/2021 9:19:35 AM PDT by zeestephen
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