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Pfizer scientist says mRNA technology used for Covid vaccines could create 'more potent' seasonal flu shots
CNBC ^ | May 2021 | Berkeley Lovelace Jr.

Posted on 05/11/2021 2:51:43 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

The mRNA technology used to develop the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine could also help create "more potent" seasonal flu shots, Kathrin Jansen, head of Pfizer's vaccine research and development, told CNBC.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: covidvaccine; flu; flushot; moderna; mrna; pfizer; rna; vaccines
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Now those who may be weary of the long term unknowns of the Covid technologies — but OK with other pre-existing, traditional vaccines are put in a dilemma. 🤦🏻‍♀️
1 posted on 05/11/2021 2:51:43 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Pfizer can _smell_ the gravy train...


2 posted on 05/11/2021 2:52:40 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Weaponizable gene therapy tech to experiment on whole populations ... check.


3 posted on 05/11/2021 2:54:29 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I guess they aren’t killing enough with this Covid vaccine mistake.


4 posted on 05/11/2021 2:54:56 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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5 posted on 05/11/2021 2:56:51 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I have only gotten a flu shot maybe 2-3 times in the past 20 years. I got H1N1 in 2009 and promptly got sick and spent a week in the hospital. I do keep all of my normal, traditional shots current. Our kids have all of their shots as well. I am not an anti-vaxxer. But I do say no to the experimental Covid vaccines and since I am not getting flu shots, probably will continue to skip them as well.


6 posted on 05/11/2021 2:58:12 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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so called vaccines are not vaccines.
The manufactures of these say they don't immunize against covid. They immunize against spike proteins. By damaging the ACE2 receptors.
What about the 20 spike proteins in our body that we need?

Here is a lab test which they took Pseu-Spike or mock virus using the same mRNA process using Adenovirus (common cold.) Creating "harmless" Spike glycoprotein. They damaged the Endothelium.

In other words no matter what they did to these spike proteins they create from the vaccines they will damage our lymphatic system.
SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902
7 posted on 05/11/2021 3:01:18 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Lol, let’s not wait and see if this stuff produces two-headed babies or anything, let’s just roll full speed ahead!!!


8 posted on 05/11/2021 3:04:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

mRNA is a medical breakthrough, like atomics was a physics breakthrough.
It can be used for great good, or for evil. (Though it’s requirements, as of now, make it’s abuse limited.)


9 posted on 05/11/2021 3:11:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

4/28/2021, 5:06:37 PM · by ransomnote · 9 replies

disabledveterans.org ^ | March 11, 2021 | Benjamin Krause

10 posted on 05/11/2021 3:20:06 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: PghBaldy

I guess they aren’t killing enough with this Covid vaccine mistake.
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Not enough are getting the biowarfare agent so maybe they’ll just start putting it in annual flu shots.


11 posted on 05/11/2021 3:20:54 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: mrsmith

It is only good if there is transparency about risks (big risks like fertility concerns not just sore arm) and exceptions made for people for whom it may NOT be good for.


12 posted on 05/11/2021 3:21:09 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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I’ve read other studies that show Flu Shot can be beneficial in preventing severe Covid! Immunity mechanism helps even though virus is different.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/flu-shot-may-help-reduce-severity-of-covid-19-illness-study-suggests.html


13 posted on 05/11/2021 3:22:26 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

In the 2019/2020 flu season there 4 people that caught the flu in my office. They all had the flu shots at least a month before getting the flu. No one that skipped the flu shot caught the flu even though we sat right next to the people that got sick.


14 posted on 05/11/2021 3:26:55 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

True.
Over the last year and a half of use there’s been no sign that it interferes with procreation- people have made and borne normal children.

I’m more concerned about mRNA’s future use in warfare if it can be protected so it can be used in sprays, etc.
Doesn’t look likely at this time, but time passes.


15 posted on 05/11/2021 3:28:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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It may not be impacting pregnancy but some (not all but in the thousands and thousands) of women have had irregular periods and it’s uncertain for how long.


16 posted on 05/11/2021 3:30:45 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Considering other vaccines actually prevent you from getting tetanus, diptheria, pertussis, measles, etc and this one doesn’t...how is that “more potent”?


17 posted on 05/11/2021 3:32:45 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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It does seem to take a heavier toll on the body overall especially younger people — and women on average more than men.

Moderna’s shot is 100mg of vial. They were going to experiment with 50mg but may be reserving smaller dosage for children they wanted to err on side of “efficacy” over moderation. One wonders if the side effects are from it being more potent or having more ingredients than necessary

Pfizer doses are 30mg but can still pack a punch.


18 posted on 05/11/2021 3:35:26 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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Pfizer scientist says mRNA technology used for Covid vaccines could create 'more potent lucrative' seasonal flu shots

Fixed it.

19 posted on 05/11/2021 3:42:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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Over the last year and a half of use there’s been no sign that it interferes with procreation- people have made and borne normal children.

The United States is experiencing the lowest birth rate in 50 years:
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/05/05/cdc-us-birth-rate-sees-largest-drop-50-years/

20 posted on 05/11/2021 3:47:25 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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