Posted on 07/13/2021 8:10:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
And many of the earliest Christians met in catacombs—underground cemeteries.
Where did you get your data on attacks on Christian churches? I’m not doubting it, but I’d like to have that source as a reference.
They have been burning Churches in the South for decades. Nothing new here.
I read about an old preacher who told his family, “the Bible says ‘to turn the other cheek’; well, you have four cheeks to turn and when you run out of cheeks to turn then it is time to kick a**.”
I have a cousin and an uncle that are pastors; it would be well within their personalities to tell that to their families/congregations.
Maybe that is some official number, but surely it’s much, much more?
The Vikings did not encounter Eskimos in their settlement. The Indians they found did not share any culture or language with them.
Furthermore, they were below the Arctic Circle.
And they did not go on a Viking rampage there or have a war. They built houses and tried to farm. They defended themselves.
And they noted that the local Indians were wretches in the way they lived.
Oh wait, I see you are a prune picker from California. Now I understand your sensitivity and PC verbiage.
http://viking.archeurope.info/index.php?page=viking-contact-in-e-arctic
uring the 10th - 15th centuries, when the Norse lived in Greenland, there were two different indigenous populations living in the eastern Artic: the Dorset Palaeo-Eskimos, who were the descendants of the original inhabitants of the artic American continent, and the Thule Inuit, who are the ancestors of the present-day inhabitants of this area. The Dorset Palaeo-Eskimos were living in northwestern Greenland and Artic Canada when the Norse first arrived. The Thule Inuit immigrated to the area from eastern Alaska at some point between the 11th and the 13th centuries.
The earliest historic reference to a meeting between the Norse and the indigenous population occurs in the Historia Norwegiae, which is a 16th century Icelandic manuscript which appears to have been copied from a now lost mid-12th century original. This briefly describes hostile meetings with natives living beyond Greenland, who used weapons and tools made from stone and walrus ivory - a description that could refer to either the Dorset Palaeo-Eskimos, or the Thule Inuit. The Norse named these people Skrælings (barbarians, or wretches).
The famous description in the Saga of Erik the Red tells of an initially friendly meeting between the Norse and the Skrælings, where trading took place, but disintegrated into chaos when a bellowing bull terrified the Skrælings, who fled only to return some weeks later to give battle.
A few later references tell of encounters with natives in the Nordrsetr - the northern hunting grounds in Greenland where they went in the summer to obtain walrus ivory and skins. A letter written by a Greenlandic priest describes how a hunting party in 1266 went further north than ever before, but that they had seen only one native settlement, probably on the Nuussuaq Penninsula to the north of Disko Bay. As a result of this letter, the church sent an expedition to an area even further north, probably to the Upernavik region. The expedition reported seeing native dwellings in this area, which abounded with seals, whales and bears, which the natives hunted.
The archaeological evidence suggests that at the time of this expedition, both Dorset Palaeo-Eskimos and Thule Inuit were living in the Thule district, although the dominant occupation in this area, as well as the adjacent Ellesmere Island region, was that of the Thule Inuit. 1
The archaeological evidence for contact between the Norse and the indigenous peoples comes from a number of different sites (see map, right).
The archaeological evidence suggests that at the time of this expedition, both Dorset Palaeo-Eskimos and Thule Inuit were living in the Thule district, although the dominant occupation in this area, as well as the adjacent Ellesmere Island region, was that of the Thule Inuit. 1
The archaeological evidence for contact between the Norse and the indigenous peoples comes from a number of different sites (see map, right).
The houses and middens of the Thule Inuit on both sides of Smith Sound have produced a variety of Norse objects. These include: a number of small pieces of metal that have been reworked into blades for Inuit tools or weapons; ship rivets; fragments of chain mail; parts of a bronze cooking vessel; a comb; chess pieces; woollen cloth and wooden parts from a box and a tub. 2
Part of the arm of a medieval Norse balance - the sort used by traders - was found on the west Coast of Ellesmere Island on a Thule Inuit site, and it has been suggested that this indicates an intention to engage in trade. 3
Also of interest is a small wooden carving found on the southern coast of Baffin Island. The figure is typical of Thule Inuit carving, but the clothing is European. 4
(View catalogue entry and photos here.)
Early Inuit sites in western Greenland also contain many Norse objects, but here it is impossible to tell if they were obtained by trade, or were looted from the abandoned houses after the Norse settlement ended. However, oral traditions of the Greenlandic Inuit describe trade between Norse and Inuit, and suggest that there was a more complex relationship between the two societies. 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_people#History
Evidence supports the idea that the Thule (and also the Dorset, but to a lesser degree) were in contact with the Vikings, who had reached the shores of Canada in the 11th century.[citation needed] In Viking sources, these peoples are called the Skrælingjar. Some Thule migrated southward, in the “Second Expansion” or “Second Phase”. By the 13th or 14th century, the Thule had occupied an area inhabited until then by the Central Inuit, and by the 15th century, the Thule replaced the Dorset. Intensified contacts with Europeans began in the 18th century. Compounded by the already disruptive effects of the “Little Ice Age” (1650–1850), the Thule communities broke apart, and the people were henceforward known as the Eskimo, and later, Inuit.
Inuit folktales of the Norse
There are also accounts from the Inuit peoples which describe interactions with the Norse:
[S]oon the kayaker sent out his spear in good earnest, and killed him on the spot. When winter came, it was a general belief that the Kavdlunait would come and avenge the death of their countrymen[8]
Kavdlunait (plural) was the Inuit word for foreigner or European, compare modern Greenlandic qallunaaq (”Dane”), formerly spelled ĸavdlunâĸ.
You’re flat wrong about Viking contact with Inuit, and now you’re wrong about your nonsense criticism of me. What is it that gets under your skin? That we christians don’t give you room to fully engage your anti-christian bigotry?
They have been burning Churches in the South for decades. Nothing new here.
“...cause I don’t need to building to be with my brothers and sisters in Christ.”
Maybe in Edmonton in January you do, idiot.
#ourstoo
I have four.
It’s the services across the neighbor’s fence, in the mall, at the store and along the road that have a greater impact on saving souls.
Live your faith - not just wear it.
Pick them from store shelves?
Prunes are not picked, but plums are.
When those are dried, then you have a prune.
I apologize, that is not what I meant. I meant that this will divide congregations because there will be some who will fall away when persecution comes. The Bible warns against this.
This is an opportunity for those who are believers to show their faith, even in persecution. And one of the ways is to still have church services, even in the ashes of the building.
This has nothing to do with denominations or minor theological differences. If the enemies of Christ see us stop serving or having second thoughts once they destroy a building, this emboldens them to strike again.
I may be an idiot, but I know who my Lord is. If it is cold outside, buy space heaters and blast the area. rent a festival tent, do something.
Because the enemies of Christ will see a victory if we do nothing. And I would rather freeze like the forty martyrs of Sebaste then be warm as Christ is ridiculed.
Yes, live your faith, in everything honor Christ. But I have personally seen the efficacy of public worship services due to the fact that most unbelievers would never darken the doorstep of a church but might be curious if they see an old style tent service in the local park.
In one place, where the church was right on the street and opened directly onto the sidewalks, I had the ushers throw the doors wide open and allowed all of the passer-bys to see and hear what was going on. We had a lot of people show interest in what was being said once they saw for themselves.
Whatever Sparky. I’m not anti-Christian, I’m a good little Baptist boy. As for the schools, I think we should be doing that with certain elements of society today.. Grabbing the children away and putting them in a boarding school to teach them how to be civilized and how to dump ghetto culture and anything involving Mohammed.
And it’s Eskimo, not Inuit. I don’t even agree when they change the name of a brontosaurus. Clear enough? Don’t you have some prunes to go pick now?
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