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1 posted on 07/29/2021 9:49:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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The poisons labeled COVID vaccines need to be banned instead of being mandated.


2 posted on 07/29/2021 9:56:23 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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When Uber liberal newspaper the Washington post publishes an article entitled “where is the data?” Thier csuse is lost.

This may very well be the undoing of the entire DNC in the US


3 posted on 07/29/2021 10:03:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (precedent now set: everyone must get an annual flu shot and divulge HIV status & its treatment)
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5 posted on 07/29/2021 10:10:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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And maybe Dr Malone is an idiot.


6 posted on 07/29/2021 11:12:18 PM PDT by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TV)
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Biden gave credit to Trump for getting the vaccine in his press conference today... That’s a bad sign.


8 posted on 07/29/2021 11:24:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's sending covid-infected illegals to Florida to hurt DeSantis. "Smallpox blankets" from Haiti )
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I am so sick of people starting out with apologizing for opposing this experimental treatment with *I’m not an anti-vaxxer”.

All it does it give legitimacy to the left’s rhetoric and accusations and mud slinging.

For crying out loud people, grow a pair and stop playing their word games and apologizing to them. It just puts them in control of the narrative and weakens your argument.


11 posted on 07/29/2021 11:42:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were tested in thousands of people, some of whom were later likely exposed to the virus. The effect wasn’t seen in the trials.


13 posted on 07/29/2021 11:49:55 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/08/01/is-a-coronavirus-vaccine-a-ticking-time-bomb/

“Explanation how ADE works and the future perils it may bring.

For a vaccine to work, our immune system needs to be stimulated to produce a neutralizing antibody, as opposed to a non-neutralizing antibody. A neutralizing antibody is one that can recognize and bind to some region (‘epitope’) of the virus, and that subsequently results in the virus either not entering or replicating in your cells.

A non-neutralizing antibody is one that can bind to the virus, but for some reason, the antibody fails to neutralize the infectivity of the virus. This can occur, for example, if the antibody doesn’t bind tightly enough to the virus, or the percentage of the surface area of the virus covered by the antibody is too low, or the concentration of the antibody is not high enough. Basically, there is some type of generic binding of the antibody to the virus, but it fails to neutralize the virus.

In some viruses, if a person harbors a non-neutralizing antibody to the virus, a subsequent infection by the virus can cause that person to elicit a more severe reaction to the virus due to the presence of the non-neutralizing antibody. This is not true for all viruses, only particular ones. This is called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), and is a common problem with Dengue Virus, Ebola Virus, HIV, RSV, and the family of coronaviruses. In fact, this problem of ADE is a major reason why many previous vaccine trials for other coronaviruses failed.


19 posted on 07/30/2021 1:07:43 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/08/01/is-a-coronavirus-vaccine-a-ticking-time-bomb/

“Explanation how ADE works and the future perils it may bring.

For a vaccine to work, our immune system needs to be stimulated to produce a neutralizing antibody, as opposed to a non-neutralizing antibody. A neutralizing antibody is one that can recognize and bind to some region (‘epitope’) of the virus, and that subsequently results in the virus either not entering or replicating in your cells.

A non-neutralizing antibody is one that can bind to the virus, but for some reason, the antibody fails to neutralize the infectivity of the virus. This can occur, for example, if the antibody doesn’t bind tightly enough to the virus, or the percentage of the surface area of the virus covered by the antibody is too low, or the concentration of the antibody is not high enough. Basically, there is some type of generic binding of the antibody to the virus, but it fails to neutralize the virus.

In some viruses, if a person harbors a non-neutralizing antibody to the virus, a subsequent infection by the virus can cause that person to elicit a more severe reaction to the virus due to the presence of the non-neutralizing antibody. This is not true for all viruses, only particular ones. This is called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), and is a common problem with Dengue Virus, Ebola Virus, HIV, RSV, and the family of coronaviruses. In fact, this problem of ADE is a major reason why many previous vaccine trials for other coronaviruses failed.


20 posted on 07/30/2021 1:07:44 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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ADE doesn’t refer to viral loads (although that it unexpected and interesting in itself).

Google “double dengue shock syndrome”. ADE means you get sicker and maybe die the second time, either after two natural infections or after vax + infection.

I’ve been concerned about this since we started (not enough not to be vaccinated). It does not appear that these “breakthrough” cases are exhibiting ADE in their clinical manifestations.

If there’s data to say so I’d like to see it.


21 posted on 07/30/2021 1:13:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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Bttt


22 posted on 07/30/2021 1:14:49 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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I'm tired of hearing so much about vaccinations and so little about immunization. Properly administered vaccines should result in the same number of immunizations. One immunization per properly administered vaccine and/or inoculation. "Vaccination" is what they call for the most but shouldn't we also be hearing more about the desired effect(s) such as "inoculated" and "immunization"?

NO VACCINATION WITHOUT IMMUNIZATION!
29 posted on 07/30/2021 3:43:54 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Repost of a link I shared a few months ago, where I first heard of ADE, and how it was to blame for all the lab animals dying in previous trials…

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/294852

Messenger RNA is an intermediary between gene and protein and the protein elicits the immune response, not the RNA. The contents of this shot being given on an experimental basis is a synthetic messenger RNA that is inserted into the human system to activate the cell to manufacture, in this case, a spike protein. [7] An mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine, because it does not elicit an immune response.

There are a number of prominent concerns of serious adverse reactions of which include, in brief summary, some of the following:

In previous clinical trials since the 1960’s [8] attempts to vaccinate against RSV, [9] Dengue, [10] SARS and MERS, the studies each failed during the animal phase. Cats, ferrets, monkeys, and rabbits each and every time experienced Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), also known as pathogenic priming or a cytokine storm. This occurs when the immune system creates an uncontrolled and overwhelming inflammatory response upon being confronted with the pathogen in the real world, and the outcome, tragically, is death.

The same immune system overreaction took place in a number of infants in clinical trials who received an attempted RSV shot, as well as some six hundred Filipino children who died following early vaccination against Dengue [11] and it remains a viable concern today. [12]

Autoimmune disease occurs when the body’s immune system can’t tell the difference between its own cells and foreign cells, and causes the body to attack its normal cells. [13] It has been suggested that “molecular mimicry” may contribute to this problem, with antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 cross-reacting with structurally similar host protein sequences and raising an acute autoimmune response against them. [14]

Scientists have determined that the same spike protein found in SARS viruses are also responsible for the development of the placenta in mammals, including humans, and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy. If a woman’s body is primed to attack these protein spikes, the immune system may prevent a placenta from being formed, which would render that woman infertile. [15]

Drs Yeadon and Wodarg further explain; “To my knowledge, Pfizer/BioNTech has yet to release any samples of written materials provided to patients, so it is unclear what, if any, information regarding (potential) fertility-specific risks caused by antibodies is included. According to section 10.4.2 of the Pfizer/BioNTech trial protocol, a woman of childbearing potential is eligible to participate if she is not pregnant or breastfeeding, and is using an acceptable contraceptive method as described in the trial protocol during the intervention period (for a minimum of 28 days after the last dose of study intervention). This means that it could take a relatively long time before a noticeable number of cases of post vaccination infertility could be observed.” [16]

We have additionally heard the reports of multiple cases of Bell’s Palsy in both trials [17] and administration, numerous cases of anaphylaxis shock even when no previous allergies were detected, as well as several announced incidents of “false positive” HIV tests. [18]

The remaining elephant in the room is that of the greatest unknown, of tampering with the human genome. There is much we have yet to comprehend of the complexity of the human body and immune system. Science has gotten it wrong many times before, having made assumptions about its ability to exert its dominance over nature. It is still and always nature which has the final say. In the human genome project they tried genetic engineering by changing a singular gene which they believed was the defect in the genetic process. Unexpectedly, instead of correcting, it caused a domino effect of uncontrolled regulation onto multiple other genes.

Pfiizer, Moderna, Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Soumya Swaminathan, the WHO’s chief scientist, have made it abundantly clear that the novel mRNA strand entering the cell is not intended to stop transmission but rather as a treatment. However, were we at long last permitted to hold public discourse on the profoundly viable and formerly ubiquitous treatments such as Ivermectin, [20] for one example, and were these treatments not denied us both in access and scientific data but disseminated to the global community, we might not have had need for an emergency use technology at all.


38 posted on 07/30/2021 5:20:19 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less injections.)
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These vaccines are going to go down in history as crimes against humanity.


40 posted on 07/30/2021 7:45:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Update...

Malone has joined Gab.

https://gab.com/RobertMaloneMD


44 posted on 08/05/2021 3:24:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Update...

Biden team’s misguided and deadly COVID-19 vaccine strategy Vaccination 'arms race' could prove dangerous to the American public

46 posted on 08/05/2021 6:26:54 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Update...

Dr Robert Malone on data coming out of Israel: If this holds true and is verified, this is looking more and more like ADE

Interesting comment at link...

spelunking_librator 6 hours ago +6 / -0 if it's ADE, it will be unvaxx who will develop herd immunity and save vaxx (unless vaxx creates Marek's first and kills everybody)

47 posted on 08/06/2021 3:47:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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