Hasty about-face distorts Delta force

New York Post ^ | July 31, 2021 | Joel Zinberg

[karpov]

The CDC now urges public indoor masking after a worrisome study on the Delta variant — undermining the vaccine effort.

We finally know what drove the CDC to revise its guidance days ago without explanation to recommend that fully vaccinated individuals wear masks in public indoor settings in areas of the country with high or substantial COVID-19 transmission. The Washington Post released a July 29 CDC slide presentation, and the CDC confirmed that one of the unpublished studies cited was pivotal in its decision.

The slides largely just confirm what was already known: The Delta variant is more contagious than earlier variants.

Two of the slides suggest people with breakthrough Delta infections can spread the virus to others, leading to the claim vaccinated people must wear masks. In fact, a nonpeer-reviewed, preprint study claimed that breakthrough Delta infections are more transmissible than breakthrough infections from other variants. It examined breakthrough infections in 100 Indian health-care workers and found higher viral loads in Delta infections compared with non-Delta infections, leading to increased transmission. But — some say crucially — this small study used an Indian version of the AstraZeneca vaccine which is not used in the US. It may have limited relevance to the mRNA vaccines used here.

The slides also reported unpublished data, now updated by the CDC, that convinced the agency to take action: 74 percent of the 469 cases in an outbreak in Barnstable County, Mass., following the July 4 weekend were in vaccinated people and most showed symptoms. Among cases who had genomic sequencing and viral load determinations, there was no difference in Delta viral load between 127 vaccinated cases and 84 unvaccinated cases. This suggests Delta breakthrough cases pose as high a transmission risk as regular Delta cases, which is higher than other variants.

[karpov]

The author knows the covid outbreak occurred among male homosexuals, as discussed in FR threads, but the reader has to be sharp to notice. He just refers to "public events marketed to adult men".

"In addition, the CDC acknowledged that the outbreak occurred after public events marketed to adult men and that the study lacked information about underlying health conditions, including immunocompromising conditions, that might have made study participants particularly susceptible to infection and higher viral titers."

[Obadiah]

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for pointing out. That explains a lot especially when combined with mass immigration.

[canuck_conservative]

So just because some partying homosexuals with HIV easily caught the virus, now we ALL have to wear masks?

CDC is insane, they’re losing more credibility every day (along with the entire Biden Administration)

[Obadiah]

Rather than recommend universal masking, the CDC could have advised those most at risk — people who are immunocompromised and account for almost half of breakthrough infections and the elderly who comprise 75 percent of hospitalized or fatal breakthrough cases...

[cuban leaf]

Hasty about-face distorts Delta force

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I think they mean Delta “farce”.

I stopped taking this thing seriously once they stopped the mask nonsense. And even then I only took it seriously in that I fought with a lot of employees at Costco that tracked me down in empty aisles to make me mask up - several times per visit.

[cuban leaf]

My take has been the same since after the first few weeks: If you are deathly afraid of the diseases that other human beings may carry, by all means wear a hazmat suit when you go out, but leave the rest of us alone.

Thank God Monk doesn’t control our culture, and that is exactly what they are attempting to turn us all into.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk_(TV_series)

[Obadiah]

Monk...LOL.

[Gahanna Bob]

I’ve thought the same thing. It went from slow the spread to find a cure to nobody can ever catch a virus or bug of any kind, ever.

I don’t think this has ever been about public health.

[silent majority rising]

“Only the sick governing elites can look you in the eye with a straight face and force experimental injections on you because masks didn’t work while simultaneously forcing masks on you because the injections didn’t work.” – Daniel Horowitz

[G Larry]

There ARE NO TESTS to differentiate the Delta from any other Covid virus!!!

[G Larry]

There ARE NO TESTS to differentiate the Delta from any other Covid virus!!!

[brookwood]

All they have to say is Provincetown and the reader will know what likely happened. One article said more than 95% of Provincetown is vaccinated, so that’s an 80% efficacy for the vaccine if only75% of the ones who got it were vaccinated.

[skimbell]

Yeah, but I bet that that party was really something to see.

[mac_truck]

Relying on a study of the Delta variant/AstraZeneca in Great Britain to model Delta variant spread in the United States is not an apples to apples comparison.

The CDC needs to take a step back and examine its methodology.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

"In addition, the CDC acknowledged that the outbreak occurred after public events marketed to adult men and that the study lacked information about underlying health conditions, including immunocompromising conditions, that might have made study participants particularly susceptible to infection and higher viral titers."

In plain English, a convocation of fudge-packers.

[cgbg]

The CDC cannot and will not admit that their study group was crazed perverts.

Since they cannot tell the truth, serious people cannot take them seriously.

[karpov]

"All they have to say is Provincetown and the reader will know what likely happened."

You and I know that, but I bet most Americans don't know Provincetown is a big destination for male homosexuals. And the media is not going to connect the dots for them.

[binreadin]

A very dangerous lifestyle on many levels. Nature didn’t design us that way and if we use parts that were designed for elimination in other ways, that leaves us much more vulnerable to autoimmune diseases.

[cuban leaf]

Monk...LOL.

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That’s what I see whenever I see people in masks - especially now. The idea of someone with that sensitivity - and mental disorder - trying to control how we live our lives is both comical and repugnant.

[cuban leaf]

You and I are on the same page with this one.