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To: Paladin2

Could you show me where in the Bible that particular doctrine originates? I suspect it isn’t there.


5 posted on 08/03/2021 7:01:42 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Jemian

Doesn’t need to directly come from the Bible.


11 posted on 08/03/2021 7:07:36 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: Jemian

“The phrase “God helps those who help themselves” is a motto that emphasizes the importance of self-initiative and agency. The expression is known around the world and is used to inspire people for self-help. The phrase originated in ancient Greece as “the Gods help those who help themselves” and may originally have been proverbial. It is illustrated by two of Aesop’s Fables and a similar sentiment is found in ancient Greek drama. Although it has been commonly attributed to Benjamin Franklin, the modern English wording appears earlier in Algernon Sidney’s work.

The phrase is often mistaken as a scriptural quote, though it is not stated verbatim in the Bible. Some Christians have criticized the expression as being contrary to the Bible’s message of God’s grace.[citation needed] A variant of the phrase can also be found in the Quran “

Buck up and get with the program...


16 posted on 08/03/2021 7:10:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: Jemian; Paladin2

That line isn’t in the Bible. Ben Franklin said it.
I doesn’t necessarily contradict Scripture.
But there are times when people do need help, sometimes crap just happens.
But there are more times when people are enabled and made dependent.
And that describes what corrupt black “leaders” have done.

Blacks are capable of great success just like anyone else .
But racist enablers like Al Sharpton want them kept dependent


19 posted on 08/03/2021 7:18:25 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton’s )
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To: Jemian; Paladin2

Thieves help themselves to whatever they like.

And God helps them to find the hangman.


44 posted on 08/03/2021 7:39:25 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Jemian

“The gods help those who help themselves” was in Aesop’s Fables.


52 posted on 08/03/2021 7:50:13 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Jemian

Ancient Greece is the origin of the concept. Sophocles wrote in Philoctetes (c. 409 BC), “No good e’er comes of leisure purposeless; And heaven ne’er helps the men who will not act.” Although the exact saying as we know it today is not in the Bible, there are multiple passages that essentially mean the same thing. The concept is also found in other religions, which only makes sense since industriousness is always seen as a virtue and laziness seen as a fault.


58 posted on 08/03/2021 7:58:22 PM PDT by Avalon Memories (Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...)
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