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Anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers and the sovereign citizen movement
New York Daily News ^ | AUG 14, 2021 | CHRISTINE M. SARTESCHI

Posted on 08/16/2021 6:29:50 AM PDT by BlackAdderess

There is an ever-increasing overlap between the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers and sovereign citizen movements, not just in the United States, but in Canada, Australia and beyond.

The former believe that COVID-19 poses minimal risk and that the government is overreacting by requiring individuals to protect themselves and others. Despite evidence to the contrary, they consider masks both ineffective and harmful and see vaccines as dangerous. COVID-19 mandates are seen as imposing upon their personal liberties.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: masks; sovereigncitizens; vaccine
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Whether she is wrong or right she may be classifying unrelated people as sovereign citizens. What I question is whether God-given and constitutionally secured rights.” is actually a thing among Sovereign Citizens. I’ve dealt with Sovereign Citizens, and the first example given of 200 San Francisco workers, many of them fire fighters, doesn’t seem to be cut from the same cloth as the other examples given. I think this might be a propaganda effort we should probably discuss and figure out. We should understand the Sovereign Citizens movement to keep from being infiltrated and fooled into tilting at other people’s windmills also.
1 posted on 08/16/2021 6:29:50 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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Are not the Sovereign Citizen folks a bunch of radical whack jobs?


2 posted on 08/16/2021 6:34:53 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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“Whether she is wrong or right she may be classifying unrelated people as sovereign citizens.”

I have NO interest in being a sovereign citizen. I’m perfectly OK with a government that is fair, honest, obeys the Constitution and treats its citizens with respect.


3 posted on 08/16/2021 6:37:38 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: BlackAdderess

I wonder if this jab mandate is to see how many will do anything the government tells them to leading up to the Climate Change lock downs?


4 posted on 08/16/2021 6:37:50 AM PDT by cp124 (Focus on treatment and not an experimental vaccine/flu shot.)
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To: BlackAdderess

The flu vaccine was introduced 75 years ago...... and thousands die every year from the flue. So why the fear when simply keeping your immune system strong with a little Vit. D and Zinc and the covid is gone?????


5 posted on 08/16/2021 6:40:22 AM PDT by high info voter
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They could start by telling the public the normal time for investigating and approving vaccines is 10 years not 10 months,American citizens are not Guinea pigs


6 posted on 08/16/2021 6:43:18 AM PDT by ballplayer
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Well, one of the ones I ran into claimed to be an emperor of his own country that consisted of the house he was trying to retitle in order to void a mortgage he was behind on. Then there were the squatters who moved into a multimillion dollar Maryland house recently.

I think this opinion piece might be trying to define innocent conservatives into a known extremist group.


7 posted on 08/16/2021 6:43:24 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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I have NO interest in being a sovereign citizen. I’m perfectly OK with a government that is fair, honest, obeys the Constitution and treats its citizens with respect.

Same here. From what I've read the "sovereign citizen" folks claim to be entirely self-sufficient to avoid taxes, yet use taxpayer-funded roads and do not hesitate to call taxpayer-funded emergency services when they need them. IOW they are grifters reaping the benefits of society without contributing to it.

8 posted on 08/16/2021 6:45:15 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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They are turning citizens against citizens with comparisons like these.

Right out of the CCP playbook.


9 posted on 08/16/2021 6:45:46 AM PDT by Safrguns
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“ government that is fair, honest, obeys the Constitution and treats its citizens with respect” sounds good to me too.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 6:46:12 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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In contrast to the Marxist nature of maskholes & vaxholes


11 posted on 08/16/2021 6:46:19 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Good find. This is a frightening piece of propaganda.


12 posted on 08/16/2021 6:50:21 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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“They are turning citizens against citizens”

Yep. Sometimes we all need to remember that the sheeples are victims, along with us, and not the real enemy.


13 posted on 08/16/2021 6:53:36 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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NOT ME, I’m in the NO CAN TAKE GROUP. Turn 73 in 3 days, NEVER HAD THE FLU, never got COVID, High Risk Senior. The 2 flu shots I took made me SICK for 2 weeks, needed a ER trip for IV’S. NO THANKS.


14 posted on 08/16/2021 7:34:34 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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There is an ever-increasing overlap between the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers and sovereign citizen movements

This looks like a sleazy attempt to slander those who are resistant to jabs against one particular disease, COVID.


15 posted on 08/16/2021 7:38:52 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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Despite evidence to the contrary, they consider masks both ineffective and harmful and see vaccines as dangerous.

No need to read beyond this point... Masks are provably ineffective to the point of uselessness, and the "vaccines" are provably dangerous, and considerably more so than any widely accepted/administered vaccine in history.

16 posted on 08/16/2021 7:42:48 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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Are not the Sovereign Citizen folks a bunch of radical whack jobs?

Do you think people who want to protect their children from medical experimentation and mandatory burqas deserve the leftist label “sovereign citizen”?
17 posted on 08/16/2021 7:45:20 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: BlackAdderess

That seems to be the most recent tactic of our media.

Sort of like how they are not directly blaming Biden for screwing Afghanistan.
They are saying it’s Trump and Biden’s fought.
Of course, totally ignoring bush/Cheney or 8 years of Osama/biden.
Not to mention our humble gov reps had 20 years to come up with a plan.


18 posted on 08/16/2021 8:12:34 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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[Are not the Sovereign Citizen folks a bunch of radical whack jobs?]

So are the Taliban....

And they just kicked the shit out of us in Afghanistan...

Maybe it is time to join up with the Sovereign Citizens?


19 posted on 08/16/2021 8:41:49 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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[ I have NO interest in being a sovereign citizen. I’m perfectly OK with a government that is fair, honest, obeys the Constitution and treats its citizens with respect.

Same here. From what I’ve read the “sovereign citizen” folks claim to be entirely self-sufficient to avoid taxes, yet use taxpayer-funded roads and do not hesitate to call taxpayer-funded emergency services when they need them. IOW they are grifters reaping the benefits of society without contributing to it. ]

So basically no worse than the welfare leeches, only with slightly MORE or my respect because they openly admit they are scum.


20 posted on 08/16/2021 8:42:56 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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